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painekiller 10-28-2014 11:01 PM

2015 Mocks
 
WalterFootball Mock

10/28/14

13 Houston Texans: Cedric Ogbuhei, OT, Texas A&M
The Texans have won too many games to be in contention for one of the top three quarterbacks. Instead, they'll have to make an upgrade elsewhere, and one area they could consider is the right tackle position. Derek Newton has looked like a human turnstile this season, so Houston could consider bolstering its blocking.

Pick change; previously Landon Collins, S

45 Houston Texans: Shawn Oakman, DE/DT, Baylor
The Texans have struggled against the run this year because they miss Antonio Smith, whom they failed to replace this past offseason. Here's an upgrade who will make their defensive front even more formidable.

Pick change; previously Danny Shelton, NT

77 Houston Texans: Wayne Lyons, CB, Stanford
The Texans wanted to address cornerback depth in the previous offseason, but never got around to it. Perhaps they will this spring.

Pick change; previously Sean Mannion, QB

I could live with this one. My list of needs is QB, CB, OT, WR, S

At some point they need to play the two QBs on the bench to see what we have, or do they look that bad in practice. We maybe needing two CBs early in this draft, we all know they need another answer at ROT, AJ is not getting younger and WRs take time to mature. Lastly we need an future upgrade at Safety.

chuck 10-29-2014 01:53 AM

Umm, Derek Newton has been one of the best OL on the team this year. At 13 you could make an argument for damn near any other position on the team other than OT. They need to watch some Texans games over there, painful as that might be.

If the Texans do pick in that area I think that is prime CB territory.

HPF Bob 10-29-2014 11:08 AM

Time to replace Watt... (j/k)

I don't think Walter has watched any Texans games this year. We need a new QB, yes, but not another project so unless one is there in the first that we like, we need to turn our attention to trades and free agents.

We could always use better DBs and more help at ILB. Pinkett has helped a lot at DT.

The OL has been improving although I'd love some upgrades there. Another WR if we aren't going to play Posey and let's find somebody who knows how to field and run back kicks.

painekiller 10-29-2014 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 39344)
We could always use better DBs and more help at ILB. Pinkett has helped a lot at DT.

How could I forget ILB?

Nconroe 10-30-2014 02:41 PM

Pickett is 35 and came out of retirement, but for sure helping. Maybe DT or DE help needed as well. We aren't really getting that much pressure on QB so far this year. Maybe that pass rush will improve as Clowney and Cushing get in shape. And as young guys get experience.

Run offense ranked 5th and run defense ranked 13th, everything else in mid-20s, so, yeah, almost any position could upgrade.

HPF Bob 10-30-2014 05:53 PM

I'd rather see what Nix has to offer next year before using a top pick on a nose guard. Maybe he's a fat ass with a bad knee who can't control his weight but maybe he'll realize he's blowing a chance for a good career and want to be the fireplug NT we invested in.

painekiller 10-31-2014 01:49 PM

What about a draft of :

13 Marcus Peters CB Washington rJr 6-0 198
45 Benardrick McKinney ILB Mississippi State rJr 6-4 249
77 Sean Mannion QB Oregon State rSr 6-5 220

painekiller 10-31-2014 01:52 PM

CBSSports.com posted a Mock 10.26.14

14. Houston Texans -- Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State: Veteran Ryan Fitzpatrick may keep the Texans from picking in the top 10 but he's clearly not the long-term answer and there has been little indication to this point that fourth round pick Tom Savage is either. Scouts are intrigued by Cook's confidence, poise and strong arm and Bill O'Brien would know him well.

popanot 10-31-2014 02:05 PM

Saw on my Twitter feed this morning Cook has decided to return to Michigan State next year. Of course, that could change, but he felt the need to announce it now so I guess there's something to it.

EDIT w/LINK: http://www.freep.com/story/sports/co...ason/18210927/

WMH 11-03-2014 07:06 PM

Wasn't sure where to stick this, but thought this was interesting. Came out due to the Pack cutting their 2011 1st rounder.
@dpbrugler: NFL 1st rounders still on team that drafted him
2010: 28
2009: 11
2008: 10
2007: 10
2006: 10
2005: 4
2004: 5
2003: 3
2002: 0
2001: 1
2000: 1

painekiller 11-26-2014 10:13 PM

Walters new mock is out. 11.25.14

12 Kevin White, WR, West Virginia
The Texans could target the wide receiver position in the first round this upcoming April. Andre Johnson won't be on the team much longer, so Houston will have to find a new starting wideout across from DeAndre Hopkins.

45 Denzel Perryman, LB, Miami
The Texans need some help in the middle of their defense, as the disappointing Brian Cushing won't be around much longer.

Pick change; previously Benardrick McKinney, LB

76 Cam Thomas, CB, Western Kentucky
The Texans wanted to address cornerback depth in the previous offseason, but never got around to it. Perhaps they will this spring.

Any thoughts on this one?

painekiller 11-27-2014 04:20 PM

One of my first attempt at a mock. I am paying closer attention to the position than the player himself, I have not had much college game time this season.

12 P.J. Williams CB Florida State Jr 6-0 196
45 Ty Montgomery WR Stanford Sr 6-2 215
76 Kurtis Drummond FS Michigan State rSr 6-1 200
108 Eric Kendricks ILB UCLA rSr 6-0 230

I was also looking at OL, and QB if the team is not sold on one of the current guys.

painekiller 12-05-2014 09:04 PM

WaltersFootball 12.3.14

13 Kevin White, WR, West Virginia
The Texans could target the wide receiver position in the first round this upcoming April. Andre Johnson won't be on the team much longer, so Houston will have to find a new starting wideout across from DeAndre Hopkins.

45 Shawn Oakman, DE/DT, Baylor
The Texans have struggled against the run this year because they miss Antonio Smith, whom they failed to replace this past offseason. Here's an upgrade who will make their defensive front even more formidable.

Some are saying that Shawn Oakman is a top-10 prospect, but they are making the mistake of not reading Charlie Campbell's NFL Draft Rumor Mill, where Charlie reported that one NFL general manager considers Oakman to be a third-day prospect.

Pick change; previously Denzel Perryman, LB

77 Cam Thomas, CB, Western Kentucky
The Texans wanted to address cornerback depth in the previous offseason, but never got around to it. Perhaps they will this spring.

painekiller 12-17-2014 01:51 AM

Walters 12.17.14

13 Houston Texans: P.J. Williams, CB, Florida State
The Texans wanted to address cornerback depth in the previous offseason, but never got around to it. Perhaps they will this spring after seeing how poorly their corners performed this season.

Pick change; previously Kevin White, WR

45 Sammie Coates, WR, Auburn
The Texans could target the wide receiver position in early rounds this upcoming April. Andre Johnson won't be on the team much longer, so Houston will have to find a new starting wideout across from DeAndre Hopkins.

Pick change; previously Jalen Collins, CB

79 Houston Texans: Sean Hickey, OT, Syracuse
Derek Newton is a liability at right tackle that the Texans should think about addressing.

Pick change; previously Ray Drew, DE/DT

IMO Walters has not watched a single game this season of the Texans. I can see them going CB-WR 1-2, but his comments have not been updated most of the season for our guys.

painekiller 12-17-2014 02:05 AM

draftsite.com

13 Danny Shelton DT Washington 6' 1" 325

45 Nick O'Leary TE Florida State 6' 3" 250

77 Le'Raven Clark* OT Texas Tech 6' 5" 320

109 Lorenzo Mauldin OLB Louisville 6' 3" 245

141 R.J. Harris WR New Hampshire 5' 10" 200

HPF Bob 12-17-2014 10:30 AM

Rob Rang currently has us picking Shelton.

Walters typically changes their picks but not their narratives. Once the season is over, that will probably get updated.

chuck 12-17-2014 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by painekiller (Post 39961)
IMO Walters has not watched a single game this season of the Texans.

That's a luxury enjoyed by most people who are not Texans fans.

Arky 12-17-2014 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by painekiller (Post 39961)
Walters 12.17.14

.......
IMO Walters has not watched a single game this season of the Texans. I can see them going CB-WR 1-2, but his comments have not been updated most of the season for our guys.

Eheh, Walter sometimes makes "old" statements like this.... I always cut him some slack cause his job is to stay on top of 32 NFL teams and all the prospects coming from college while most of us don't.....

painekiller 12-19-2014 12:04 AM

What if? My Mock 2015 2.0

13 *Shawn Oakman 3/4 DE Baylor rJr 6-8 275 Either BOB loves this kid, or he doesn't give him the time of day after his stint at Penn St. If he loves the kid and Clowney returns healthy someday, we could have a front seven of Watt, Nix, Oakman, Mercilus, Cushing, Mohamed, Clowney. Call it the "Pick Your Poison Defense". That is 5 guys who play in the other teams backfield on most plays.

45 Ty Montgomery WR/KR Stanford Sr 6-2 215

77 *Charles Gaines CB/PR Louisville rJr 5-11 175

109 *Tyler Kroft TE Rutgers rJr 6-5 240

141 Ladarius Gunter CB Miami (Fla.) rSr 6-2 198

173 Quandre Diggs DB Texas Sr 5-10 204

I don't think we go DE in the 1st, but it could be fun to envision.

popanot 12-19-2014 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by painekiller (Post 39962)
draftsite.com

13 Danny Shelton DT Washington 6' 1" 325

45 Nick O'Leary TE Florida State 6' 3" 250

77 Le'Raven Clark* OT Texas Tech 6' 5" 320

109 Lorenzo Mauldin OLB Louisville 6' 3" 245

141 R.J. Harris WR New Hampshire 5' 10" 200

This looks exactly like a Rick Smith draft. Horrible.

painekiller 12-21-2014 11:35 PM

Just got a mock from DraftTek.com dated 12.17.14

14 Brett Hundley UCLA QB 6'3" 227
Quote:

Well, Ryan Mallett didn't show much during his short audition . . . and he's a F/A in 2015. Ryan Fitzpatrick is injured and has one more year on his 2-year contract with the Texans . . . and Tom Savage looked like a 3rd-string rookie QB starting his first game against the Colts. Folks, this team needs a QB and the athletic Hundley from UCLA should be a nice candidate for HC O'Brien to groom.
46 Charles Gaines Louisville CB 5'11" 175
Quote:

Starter Kareem Jackson is a F/A in 2015 . . . do you open the vault for a player better suited to play nickel? Johnathan Joseph needs a pick-pocket partner in crime and so far, Messrs. Hal, Bouye, Morris, or Rolle have not stepped up to the plate. Gaines led the Cardinals in interceptions as a sophomore and has great hands, as he has also played offense.
78 Josh Harper Fresno State WRF 6'1" 185

110 Tevin Coleman Indiana RBF 6'1" 210

painekiller 12-23-2014 09:42 PM

New Walter's mock

15 Ronald Darby, CB, Florida State
The Texans wanted to address cornerback depth in the previous offseason, but never got around to it. Perhaps they will this spring after seeing how poorly their corners performed this season.

Pick change; previously P.J. Williams, CB

50 Benardrick McKinney, LB, Mississippi State
The Texans really need help in the interior of their defense, as Brian Cushing is not expected back with the team next year.

Pick change; previously Sammie Coates, WR

81 Ray Drew, DE/DT, Georgia
The Texans have struggled against the run this year because they miss Antonio Smith, whom they failed to replace this past offseason. Here's an upgrade who will make their defensive front even more formidable.

Pick change; previously Sean Hickey, OT


I like a CB in the 1st, and would like an SEC ILB in the 2nd round. I do not agree that we are weak against the run currently at DE. I am also looking forward to Nix's return next off season.

But I am not sure the guys we have are what RAC would ideally have on defense.

painekiller 12-31-2014 03:01 PM

Another Walter Mock

16 Landon Collins, S, Alabama
Landon Collins slips a bit out of circumstance in this update, but the Texans won't complain too much. They have some issues at safety that they need to address. Former second-rounder D.J. Swearinger has not lived up to expectations.

Pick change; previously Ronald Darby, CB

51 Benardrick McKinney, LB, Mississippi State
The Texans really need help in the interior of their defense, as Brian Cushing is not expected back with the team next year.

82 Josh Harper, WR, Fresno State
It's unknown how much longer Andre Johnson will last, but the Texans could look into adding a future No. 2 wideout across from DeAndre Hopkins.

Pick change; previously Ray Drew, DE/DT

barrett 12-31-2014 11:29 PM

I would not bring back Cushing (even though he's one of my all time favorites), but I had not heard it was likely the Texans wouldn't bring him back.

chuck 01-01-2015 12:52 AM

I'm really excited about this. Why, the last time the Texans had the #16 pick they made off with Travis Johnson!

What a complete joke this team is. Yes, Casserly, I know. But let's get back to reality today. Two playoff wins in thirteen years. This is 100% on the owner. He is a fkwit. His son is worse. We are going to have to live with Cal McDickwit for another, hell, lifetime.

Sure, BOB seems to break the mold of previous Texans head coaches by not being a total dickwit but with these clowns at the controls that will get us only so far.

HPF Bob 01-01-2015 01:22 PM

They made off with Travis Johnson after trading out of the spot to take LB Derrick Johnson. Still wince over that one.

chuck 01-01-2015 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 40192)
They made off with Travis Johnson after trading out of the spot to take LB Derrick Johnson. Still wince over that one.

I was literally jumping up and down when it became clear that Derrick Johnson would be available. Then the Texans went and did what they did and I sat back down in total disbelief. You know, honestly, things haven't been quite the same between the team and me since. Hell, I used to travel significant distances to watch PRESEASON games. And now I haven't attended a game of any kind in years. I might just go to the game in Miami next year, though, depending on when it is.

barrett 01-01-2015 06:46 PM

Neither of these QBs looks very good in this semi final. Mariotta looks about like what I see when I watch my local HS team (Manvel), except he's bigger with a bigger arm. I think in the whole 1st half he has attempted to make an on time pass in the pocket to a receiver more than 5 yards downfield about 3 times. It's a junior high offense.

I'd go with Winston if I was picking between the two. I've seen more guys grow up in the NFL than I've seen guys learn to be QBs.

Nconroe 01-02-2015 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrett (Post 40190)
I would not bring back Cushing (even though he's one of my all time favorites), but I had not heard it was likely the Texans wouldn't bring him back.

I was surprised by that comment, but still hope for Cushing to fully recover and be back.

But I'm good with drafting a top ILB fairly early.

HPF Bob 01-02-2015 08:18 PM

BTW, what choice was Cushing? Wasn't he mid-first a few years back?

painekiller 01-02-2015 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrett (Post 40190)
I would not bring back Cushing (even though he's one of my all time favorites), but I had not heard it was likely the Texans wouldn't bring him back.

My understanding of the cap hit on Cushing is that he will cost more to cut than to keep this year, from a football move cutting Cushing makes sense, from a cap move it doesn't. I could be wrong on the cap hit.

No matter Cushing health, the team needs to draft another ILB in the top three rounds.

painekiller 01-02-2015 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 40201)
BTW, what choice was Cushing? Wasn't he mid-first a few years back?

He was #15 in 2009

Keith 01-03-2015 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by painekiller (Post 40202)
My understanding of the cap hit on Cushing is that he will cost more to cut than to keep this year, from a football move cutting Cushing makes sense, from a cap move it doesn't. I could be wrong on the cap hit.

Yeah, Cushing isn't really the one to cut. You could try to ask him to restructure his base, which I think is $4 million in 2015, but there are many other spots on the roster more easily addressed financially than Cushing this season. He signed like a 6-yr extension two years ago, so he's probably here not just for 2015 but for 2016 as well.

painekiller 02-20-2015 03:23 AM

a new drafttek mock 2.18.15

16 Houston Malcom Brown Texas DT34 6'4" 320

Quote:

The Texans are not influenced by opinions when considering in-state selections; the correlation between talent, value, and need supercedes emotion. Texans' draft decisions are based on what's best for the team, and Big Malcolm's versatility makes this pick intriguing. Houston already has a phenom unleashing havoc on opposing QBs and RBs; it's time to get JJ a dance partner. The "next-best thing" to having one dominant, versatile, and respectful defensive lineman . . . is having two! Scheme-versatile players increase play call flexibility and make the defense more unpredictable. Opponents must prepare for multiple alignments instead of just one. Malcom is not going to come in and produce JJ Watt numbers during his rookie season, although he is a plug-and-play rookie with the versatility to have a special career. ~CME, Texans Analyst
51 Houston Charles Gaines Louisville CB 5'11" 175
Quote:

Upcoming roster moves will play a significant role in determining priority levels assigned to position groups as the Texans construct their draft board. Uncertainty surrounding the CB position makes one thing certain; the Texans must address the position before the 2015 season. Even if Kareem is re-signed to a long-term deal, J Joe has a large cap figure and is not getting any younger. The earlier a replacement is identified, the better. Charles Gaines has a reputation for making "Deion-like business decisions" when it comes to tackling, but his coverage skills are in-line with the best CBs in this draft. Gaines is a former WR who understands route concepts and would fit nicely into the Texans' nickel CB role. In addition to his defensive prowess, Gaines provides an immediate boost to the return game. ~CME, Texans Analyst
82 Houston Tony Lippett Michigan State WRF 6'3" 190
113 Houston Ameer Abdullah Nebraska RBC 5'9" 194
144 Houston Tyler Kroft Rutgers TE 6'6" 240
179 Houston Sean Mannion Oregon St QB 6'4" 220
210 Houston Junior Sylvestre Toledo ILB 6'0" 222

Not sure I agree with this one, though another DT could give this team a jumbo package it currently does not possess, and if Nix comes back healthy, it gives the team the potential to have a formidable rotation at the NT. As for the CB, not sure BOB will go for a CB who shy's away from tackling.

HPF Bob 02-20-2015 01:54 PM

One thing you have to agree is that the Texans have never been into drafting local fan favorites from college. Even Case Keenum was a UDFA, not a draft choice. We passed on big-name Aggies and Longhorns several times over the years.

painekiller 02-20-2015 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 40316)
One thing you have to agree is that the Texans have never been into drafting local fan favorites from college. Even Case Keenum was a UDFA, not a draft choice. We passed on big-name Aggies and Longhorns several times over the years.

In 2003 the Texans took Chance Pearce OC Texas A&M
In 2004 they took Sloan Thomas WR Texas
BTW Casserly's drafts really sucked
In 2007 Kasey Studdard OG Texas
In 2008 Frank Okam DT Texas
In 2009 James Casey TE Rice
In 2011 Cheta Ozougwu DE Rice
In 2012 Randy Bullock K Texas A&M

So not many local kids, and sadly even less memorable local kids.

This was more interesting to me:

Position Picks 1st Round
Quarterback 6 1
Running Back 7 0
Fullback 1 0
Wide Receiver 9 2
Tight End 6 0
Offensive Tackle 7 1
Offensive Guard 6 0
Center 4 0
Defensive End 7 3
Defensive Tackle 8 2
Linebacker 10 2
Cornerback 11 2
Safety 9 0
Kicker 1 0
Punter 0 0

Very little offense has been drafted in the 1st by this team 4/9 (O/D)

Edit note *** Sorry this is hard to read, it is all lined up until I hit save.

HPF Bob 02-21-2015 01:01 PM

I think those were all last-day choices though. Clearly "We have to get to Peyton Manning" has been the draft's overall meme all these years.

painekiller 02-22-2015 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 40318)
I think those were all last-day choices though. Clearly "We have to get to Peyton Manning" has been the draft's overall meme all these years.

Yes to both points. And I agree with general premise that the team has not used local talent as a bump up the board.

I think we can name a view guys from the big state schools that many fans wanted the team to draft, and none where picked.

painekiller 02-22-2015 12:57 AM

DraftSite.com has this 7 round mock.

16 Malcom Brown DT Texas 6' 3" 325
51 Jalen Collins* CB LSU 6' 0" 195
82 Rob Havenstein OT Wisconsin 6' 7" 330
113 Deontay Greenberry* WR Houston 6' 2" 200
144 Arie Kouandijo OG Alabama 6' 5" 320
179 Shaquille Riddick OLB West Virginia 6' 5" 245
210 Xzavier Dickson ILB Alabama 6' 2" 265

The teams FA loses and signing will have an impact on this mock.

My take:
16 Melvin Gordon* RB Wisconsin 6' 1" 205
51 Alex Carter* CB Stanford 6' 0" 195
82 Clive Walford TE Miami 6' 4" 255
113 Donovan Smith* OT Penn State 6' 6" 340
144 Mike Hull ILB Penn State 6' 0" 230
179 Adrian Amos S Penn State 6' 0" 215
210 Darren Waller WR Georgia Tech 6' 6" 240

Why not a Penn St heavy draft? I am kidding about that, but the position groups might be close, and I would not be shocked if they drafted 2 TEs. I am interested in getting faster on offense, thus Gordon the kid can fly. I am not feeling any of the QBs projected to be available to them.Would not be upset if they signed Jerry Lovelocke QB Prairie View A&M as an UDFA.

chuck 02-22-2015 01:13 AM

Vandermeer had a mock up that I didn't hate.

First Round – Trae Waynes, CB Michigan State

Second Round – Denzel Perryman, ILB Miami

Third Round – Donovan Smith, OT Penn State

Fourth Round – Bryce Petty, QB Baylor

Fifth Round – Deontay Greenberry, WR Houston

Sixth Round – Jean Sifrin, TE UMass

Seventh Round – Malcolm Brown, RB Texas

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/ar...d-41c6dffbfac6


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