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Official 2014 NFL Draft - Round 2 & 3 Thread
Texans sit with the first pick in the 2nd round. With Bridgewater off the board and a potential QB (Ryan Mallett) available via trade with the Patriots for a mid-round pick, might this be a great opportunity for the Texans to trade back or out of the round and stockpile additional picks?
Or, oh the horror, will they select Derek Carr? |
I wouldn't be surprised if right now the Texans are all huddling, talking about Carr. Who knows, O'Brien may really like him and be very surprised he's still on the Board while the owner/organization has probably got some deep reservations about drafting him for obvious reasons. But Carr has an excellent arm, very talented.
Then there's also guys like Morgan Moses who might finally fix the OLine at RT, and lots of DLine prospects including Stephon Tuitt and Ra-shead Hageman and a real NT prospect in Louis Nix. So Smith surely is going to get some opportunities to trade this pick and get a late 2nd rounder plus a third or fourth rounder just as Seattle did with their 1.32 last night. Texans got some ops right now. |
So who should be the pick at 33? I just looked at a list of best available and it listed a few huge DTs. That would definitely fit our need and round out the defense.
With most of the QB hungy teams getting a QB it seems we could wait at QB (especially since Carr is the next likely one and he is toxic to us). Maybe we could score a similar deal to Seattle (pick 40 and a 4th for 32). A pick in the early 40s would fit QB better than the guys available now. Marquise Lee and a few other WRs look good. I am doubting Andre plays for us in 2015. OL had quite a 1st round run. Is there still talent there worth our pick? Is there depth if we wait? |
I want the OL fixed and we need to do that pronto if we aren't drafting a QB. The top guards are still on the board (Sua-Filo, Bitonio, Yankey, Gabe Jackson) as well as the second-tier OTs (Kuoandijo, Moses, Mewhort, Richardson). I like the guard talent better but the tackle talent is harder to replace.
You could be exotic and add Jace Amaro but that was always the "extra pick from trading down" fantasy. We have too many other true needs to flirt with that. I would only want to trade down if we are *adding* 3rds or 4ths in the process. We already have multiple picks below that. |
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I hope the new regime has had enough time to evaluate the existing Texans roster re needs in both the defensive and offensive lines so they can prioritize their Draft needs in those areas ? For example can Crick and/or Jamison help us in the DLine, or are they too small for Crennels liking ? And what about Quess, is he possibly a prospect for RT or are his OLine opportunites limited to inside at guard ? And I haven't heard anything lately about last years 3rd round RT pick Williams ?
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Not that any of these draft "experts" had any clue as to what was going to happen last night (I'm sure for 99.999% of them, things got waaay off track once JAX took Bortles), the "rumor" is the Texans like Garoppolo in the 2nd. If so, please trade down Mr. Smith!!!!
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I'm guessing Texans will trade down at top of second, but if go with best player available could be on DLine. Couple of Notre Dame lineman could be good value early in second.
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Supposedly Clowney is going to wear #90. Now all we need to complete the horrific cycle is for the Texans to draft Carr and give him #8!!
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Day 2: My top picks left for the Texans
OG Xavier Su'a-Filo DE Kony Ealy OT Joel Bitonio QB Jimmy Garoppolo QB Derek Carr DE Trent Murphy WR Donte Moncrief RB Bishop Sankey CB Stanley Jean-Baptiste RB Tre Mason CB Keith McGill ILB Jordan Tripp WR Jordan Matthews DE Kareem Martin CB Jaylen Watkins WR Bruce Ellington QB AJ McCarron QB Zach Mettenberger TE CJ Fiedorowicz WR Martavis Bryant OLB Chris Smith OLB Demarcus Lawrence OC Weston Richburg NT Caraun Reid OG Brandon Thomas |
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Sua-Filo. Great pick. Very happy with this. Clowney and Sua-Filo. Can't argue with their decisions so far, not knowing what trade-down offers they had.
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Su'a-Filo
Didn't see it coming but yeah, looks OK.... "Trenchy" so far.... Cowboys traded up to pick next... |
Redskins got Dallas' 2nd and 3rd (both middle of the round). I presume Texans had same offer. Adding a third-rounder is tempting but falling 14-15 spots to do it might have been a hard pill to swallow.
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texans-need-to-be-blown-away-to-trade-33. Looks like just 1 pick in rounds 2 & 3? But two picks in the 4th..... Pick 3.1 is going to be very interesting... |
The Texans drafted my top guy Sua-Filo. Then Bitonio goes #35. Instead of Clowney, I would have Greg Robinson and Xavier fixing the OL. Anyway, keeping my fingers crossed for Garoppolo.
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Tell me David Carr isn't feeling a bit of redemption right about now. Schaub replaces Carr ---> Carr replaces Schaub.
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I think the Texans may be eyeing Savage or McCarron instead of Garoppolo. Just a hunch. They didn't like Bridgewater and Garoppolo is similar.
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Texans must have loved this guy because they had to have had tons of ops to trade this pick for multiple mid-round picks. To think they valued this fella over a
Garrapolo or a Mettenzenburg or one of the Notre Dame DLineman, etc speaks highly of how they rate him. I gotta think they see this prospect as their next RT. |
Cbssports.com is giving the picks well ahead of the networks.
40. Det Kyle Van Noy BYU |
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Eagles just traded with the Titans moving up to 42 to 54. I think the Texans should jump the Titans if they want the next top QB. Eagles: Jordan Matthews - WR |
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Linky Pick 42 Eagles Jordan Matthews VANDY WR |
The trades are going crazy now.
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I think we might be putting more weight on QB than the Texans, but I can see AZ at 52 and TENN 54 taking QB.
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They had Sus-Filo about 3-1/2 minutes before the streaming vid my co-worker is using.
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There goes Kouandijo to Buffalo.
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Weston Richburg sounds like a made-up name for a snooty Thurston Howell III type of character.
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RE: CBS Sports tipping the picks... The NFL must have caught wind b/c now they're slowing down to 1 pick ahead and saying "Pick is in" for the ones ahead of that.
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Yeah, they must've been busted. That was fun while it lasted.
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My boy Jace Amaro of Texas Tech has been slipping down. I thought he'd be late 1st or early 2nd. Would hate to see NE get him.
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Pricso at CBS Sports crabbed that the Texans should have taken Nix over Sua-Filo at #33 but it's pick #49 and Nix hasn't been called yet.
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Jets pick is in... Two more picks until AZ. If the Texans are gonna jump up, SD or CHI is the time to do it.
EDIT: SD pick is in... |
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Jets take my boy Amaro and here comes Pricso to whine....
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About 10 more till the Texans pick again...
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“Only one way to play football & that’s aggressive, physical & nasty.” Xavier Su’a-Filo: http://bit.ly/1l9YPs0 pic.twitter.com/sLTfrZD2lD |
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Denver trades up in the second and selected Cody Latimer who had been invited to NYC for last night's draft and I dubbed him "most likely to go home unselected". They had already signed Emmanual Sanders to "replace" Decker so this is depth for when Welker is waived next spring.
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Radio saying Patriots expected to take Garoppolo...
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