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painekiller 09-24-2013 10:14 PM

2014 Mock Drafts
 
WalterFootball.com 9.25.13


19 C.J. Mosley, ILB, Alabama
The Texans really wanted to add some inside linebackers in the 2013 NFL Draft, but never got around to it (Arthur Brown was snagged off the board right before they picked in Round 2). They remain pretty thin at the position.

51 David Fales, QB, San Jose State
If Matt Schaub disappoints yet again, the Texans will be tempted to grab one of the talented quarterbacks in this class during the first two days of the draft.

83 Deandre Coleman, DE/DT, California
The Texans have a couple of defensive linemen heading for free agency in March, including Antonio Smith.


My cherry pick of this mock, I am not claiming to know anything about the player I am picking only going for the position.

19 Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma
51 Jackson Jeffcoat, OLB, Texas
83 Andrew Jackson, ILB, Western Kentucky

I think LG is an issue which can be filled by Quiss. I think that Antonio is either resigned or Crick and Montgomery are used to fill the spot ( see the other thread where Montgomery has been moved to DE). It's real early and there is no telling what happens between now and next May.

Nconroe 09-29-2013 08:49 PM

Not sure what all might happen between now and 2014 draft but seems there are quite a few QB rated as first and second round picks, so we shall see.

painekiller 09-29-2013 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nconroe (Post 35317)
Not sure what all might happen between now and 2014 draft but seems there are quite a few QB rated as first and second round picks, so we shall see.

For the first time in years I am going to be tracking early round QBs.

painekiller 10-04-2013 12:11 PM

WalterFootball.com 10.2.13
 
WalterFootball.com 10.2.13

17 C.J. Mosley, ILB, Alabama
The Texans really wanted to add some inside linebackers in the 2013 NFL Draft, but never got around to it (Arthur Brown was snagged off the board right before they picked in Round 2). They remain pretty thin at the position.

49 Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia
What the hell was Matt Schaub thinking when he tossed that pick-six to Richard Sherman? It's time for Houston to move on.

81 Jeoffrey Pagan, DE/DT, Alabama
The Texans have a couple of defensive linemen heading for free agency in March, including Antonio Smith.

An all SEC draft? Not a bad one here, don't currently think Murray will last this long, but he is a solid pick. I also agree with ILB help, and Mosley is a machine.

HPF Bob 10-04-2013 12:43 PM

I thought we only took ACC players and U. of South Carolina. Now I'm confused. :confused:

barrett 10-04-2013 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by painekiller (Post 35397)
WalterFootball.com 10.2.13

17 C.J. Mosley, ILB, Alabama
The Texans really wanted to add some inside linebackers in the 2013 NFL Draft, but never got around to it (Arthur Brown was snagged off the board right before they picked in Round 2). They remain pretty thin at the position.

49 Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia
What the hell was Matt Schaub thinking when he tossed that pick-six to Richard Sherman? It's time for Houston to move on.

81 Jeoffrey Pagan, DE/DT, Alabama
The Texans have a couple of defensive linemen heading for free agency in March, including Antonio Smith.

An all SEC draft? Not a bad one here, don't currently think Murray will last this long, but he is a solid pick. I also agree with ILB help, and Mosley is a machine.

When Cushing went down Sharpton was terrible. He could have cost us the game twice (going inside shoulder on the 4th down play that would have kept it 20-6, and then the dumb horse collar when the guy was already going out of bounds). If a training camp cut like Mays starts for us, and Sharpton is the best of the rest, count me in. I don't think it is a round 1 player in our defense, but I would love it if we could just draft a healthy tackler in the 3rd-4th.

painekiller 10-09-2013 11:43 PM

Walters 10.9.2013
 
Walters 10.9.2013

14 C.J. Mosley, ILB, Alabama
The Texans really wanted to add some inside linebackers in the 2013 NFL Draft, but never got around to it (Arthur Brown was snagged off the board right before they picked in Round 2). They remain pretty thin at the position.

46 Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia
What the hell was Matt Schaub thinking when he tossed that pick-six to Richard Sherman? It's time for Houston to move on.

78 Henry Anderson, DE/DT, Stanford
The Texans have a couple of defensive linemen heading for free agency in March, including Antonio Smith.

Pick change; previously Jeoffrey Pagan, DE/DT

Almost the same as last weeks

Like last week the need for a QB is growing, Johnny Football is on the board with the first pick and I do not see McNair biting on him. Only pick I might look at a different position is CB in the 3rd.

barrett 10-13-2013 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by painekiller (Post 35544)
Walters 10.9.2013

14 C.J. Mosley, ILB, Alabama
The Texans really wanted to add some inside linebackers in the 2013 NFL Draft, but never got around to it (Arthur Brown was snagged off the board right before they picked in Round 2). They remain pretty thin at the position.

46 Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia
What the hell was Matt Schaub thinking when he tossed that pick-six to Richard Sherman? It's time for Houston to move on.

78 Henry Anderson, DE/DT, Stanford
The Texans have a couple of defensive linemen heading for free agency in March, including Antonio Smith.

Pick change; previously Jeoffrey Pagan, DE/DT

Almost the same as last weeks

Like last week the need for a QB is growing, Johnny Football is on the board with the first pick and I do not see McNair biting on him. Only pick I might look at a different position is CB in the 3rd.

Who do we get for drafting in the top 5?

popanot 10-13-2013 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrett (Post 35604)
Who do we get for drafting in the top 5?

A QB that Kubiak won't know how to utilize and will stymie with his antiquated schemes.

painekiller 10-13-2013 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by popanot (Post 35605)
A QB that Kubiak won't know how to utilize and will stymie with his antiquated schemes.

I would guess a player that is chosen by the new head coach.

painekiller 10-16-2013 02:05 AM

Walters 10.16.2013
 
Walters 10.16.2013

Quote:

10 C.J. Mosley, ILB, Alabama
The Texans really wanted to add some inside linebackers in the 2013 NFL Draft, but never got around to it (Arthur Brown was snagged off the board right before they picked in Round 2). They remain pretty thin at the position.

I thought about slotting Johnny Manziel here, but the Texans put so much stock into character that they may look elsewhere for a solution at the quarterback position.

42 Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU
What the hell was Matt Schaub thinking when he tossed that pick-six to Richard Sherman? Schaub's confidence is completely gone. It's time for Houston to move on.

Pick change; previously Aaron Murray, QB

74 Ed Stinson, DE/DT, Alabama
The Texans have a couple of defensive linemen heading for free agency in March, including Antonio Smith.

Pick change; previously Henry Anderson, DE/DT

What do you guys think?

As of right now, I think it's time for a change, but a rookie QB is not what this team needs, is it? A new HC maybe. So I have no way of knowing how this team will draft next year.

barrett 10-16-2013 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by painekiller (Post 35640)
Walters 10.16.2013




What do you guys think?

As of right now, I think it's time for a change, but a rookie QB is not what this team needs, is it? A new HC maybe. So I have now way of knowing how this team will draft next year.

Interesting logic from him. We pass on one QB due to character issues to draft a guy who was kicked out of his first school for legal troubles.

HPF Bob 10-16-2013 10:15 AM

If we're truly going to pick 10th, it may be the year to take a rookie QB. Who knows how long it may be before we pick that high again. Then again, I'm not wowed by any of the QBs who might be there - even Bridgewater.

Manziel might make sense if the Texans were having trouble selling out the place but otherwise, no. Too many ways for that scenario to go wrong.

barrett 10-16-2013 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 35645)
If we're truly going to pick 10th, it may be the year to take a rookie QB. Who knows how long it may be before we pick that high again. Then again, I'm not wowed by any of the QBs who might be there - even Bridgewater.

Manziel might make sense if the Texans were having trouble selling out the place but otherwise, no. Too many ways for that scenario to go wrong.

I like Taj Boyd more than any of the other QBs, and I am sure that Hopkins wouldn't mind.

Manziel is intriguing in our current offense due to his mobility and ability to throw on the run. But if it's a whole new offense it is far less intriguing.

painekiller 10-16-2013 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrett (Post 35653)
Manziel is intriguing in our current offense due to his mobility and ability to throw on the run. But if it's a whole new offense it is far less intriguing.

I agree with that, I just see him being an issue, an issue that McNair will not want to deal with.

barrett 10-17-2013 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by painekiller (Post 35663)
I agree with that, I just see him being an issue, an issue that McNair will not want to deal with.

I would agree, but a new HC will likely come with the mandate to find a QB. A Smith/New Guy combo would likely have the juice to go with anyone they wanted. Especially if it was Sumlin.

painekiller 10-23-2013 01:51 AM

Walters 10.22.2013
 
Walters 10.22.2013

Quote:

5 Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
This was a tough decision. I considered C.J. Mosley, as I've been mocking him to Houston the past four weeks, but it's too early for an inside linebacker, despite the glaring need. Tajh Boyd was an option, but I wanted to move him down into the middle portion of the first round. Louis Nix was also a candidate, but I ultimately settled on Taylor Lewan.

The Texans let Eric Winston go this past offseason, thinking they could easily replace him because of their system. As it turns out, the new right tackle, Derek Newton, has been one of the worst starting linemen in all of football.

Pick change; previously C.J. Mosley, ILB

37 Stephen Morris, QB, Miami
Case Keenum will get a chance to prove himself for the rest of the season. If he doesn't convince Houston's front office that he can be a solid starter, the team will attempt to find a franchise quarterback in the spring.

Pick change; previously Zach Mettenberger, QB

69 Yawin Smallwood, ILB, Connecticut
The Texans really wanted to add some inside linebackers in the 2013 NFL Draft, but never got around to it (Arthur Brown was snagged off the board right before they picked in Round 2). They remain pretty thin at the position, especially in the wake of yet another injury to Brian Cushing.

Pick change; previously Ed Stinson, DE/DT
If the Texans have the 5 pick, I trade up for

3 Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
37 Jackson Jeffcoat, DE, Texas
69 Yawin Smallwood, ILB, Connecticut

Ok I admit, no way do the Texans go this way. But Matthews can play RT until it's time to move on from Brown. i chose Jeffcoat cause I just love the kid, but i don't think it's the right move right here in the draft, but I did it anyway.
As for Smallwood, we need as many ILBs as we can find. IMO :D

HPF Bob 10-24-2013 12:39 AM

Rob Rang at CBSSports.com now has the Texans selecting 4th and taking Johnny Manzeil. My reaction is "wrong Aggie". If the Texans are drafting that high, they should take Jake Matthews and start him at RT (his natural position). That would instantly upgrade the offense because the backs will have better holes to run through and the QB (whoever he is) will get more time to throw.

Plus, there are no issues with Matthews not being focused on football. With his bloodlines, he knows how to be a pro.

I'd be shocked if they were drafting that high because they'd probably lose all their remaining games (including both with Jacksonviile) in order to get there. But if you gave me a choice between Manziel and Matthews, that's a layup for me. Get Matthews.

barrett 10-24-2013 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 35910)
Rob Rang at CBSSports.com now has the Texans selecting 4th and taking Johnny Manzeil. My reaction is "wrong Aggie". If the Texans are drafting that high, they should take Jake Matthews and start him at RT (his natural position). That would instantly upgrade the offense because the backs will have better holes to run through and the QB (whoever he is) will get more time to throw.

Plus, there are no issues with Matthews not being focused on football. With his bloodlines, he knows how to be a pro.

I'd be shocked if they were drafting that high because they'd probably lose all their remaining games (including both with Jacksonviile) in order to get there. But if you gave me a choice between Manziel and Matthews, that's a layup for me. Get Matthews.

It's a QB driven league. Jacksonville had a great RT this year they drafted and it meant just about nothing because they did not have a QB. I don't care "which Aggie" or if it's an Aggie at all, but I hope it's a QB, especially if we are that high.

nunusguy 10-24-2013 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 35910)
Rob Rang at CBSSports.com now has the Texans selecting 4th and taking Johnny Manzeil. My reaction is "wrong Aggie". If the Texans are drafting that high, they should take Jake Matthews and start him at RT (his natural position). That would instantly upgrade the offense because the backs will have better holes to run through and the QB (whoever he is) will get more time to throw.

Plus, there are no issues with Matthews not being focused on football. With his bloodlines, he knows how to be a pro.

I'd be shocked if they were drafting that high because they'd probably lose all their remaining games (including both with Jacksonviile) in order to get there. But if you gave me a choice between Manziel and Matthews, that's a layup for me. Get Matthews.

LTs are worthy of the 4th overall pick, but not RTs unless they would be drafted with the plan of ultimately being the "franchise" LT. However since we've already got Duane Brown, well like I said in the first place, the 4th overall is too high for a RT.

HPF Bob 10-24-2013 11:46 AM

Well, there's always the possibility of trading down but I haven't given up on the QBs we already have and giving them better protection would seem to be a key need and Matthews would definitely be an upgrade projected to be a Top 10 pick. If there was a great QB available, I might be intrigued but there aren't any in this draft that I want from what I've seen of them.

painekiller 10-26-2013 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 35915)
Well, there's always the possibility of trading down but I haven't given up on the QBs we already have and giving them better protection would seem to be a key need and Matthews would definitely be an upgrade projected to be a Top 10 pick. If there was a great QB available, I might be intrigued but there aren't any in this draft that I want from what I've seen of them.

I agree with your assessment of the QBs in this draft, and I also think OL or DL is the way to go early in a draft. All that said, the Texans schedule for the rest of the way points to a mid round pick. And I would go with the best ILB or OL available.

painekiller 10-27-2013 06:09 PM

CBSsports.com Mock 10.22.13
 
cbssports mock

Rob Rang has us taking Johnny Manziel, QB
Texas A&M at #4

And Dane Brugler has us taking Anthony Barr, OLB
UCLA at #4.

Rob Rang
Quote:

(2-5) Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M: The Texans are desperate for a spark at quarterback. No one provides a spark like Johnny Football, whose short to intermediate-level accuracy and dynamic athleticism could make him quite a fit in head coach Gary Kubiak's offense.
Dane Brugler
Quote:

Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA: After starting 2-0, the Texans have lost five straight and are on track to pick in the top-10 of the 2014 NFL Draft. But that doesn't mean this pick will be a quarterback, instead, Anthony Barr would desperately help a streaky Houston defense.

Joshua 10-27-2013 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by painekiller (Post 35932)
cbssports mock

Rob Rang has us taking Johnny Manziel, QB
Texas A&M at #4

And Dane Brugler has us taking Anthony Barr, OLB
UCLA at #4.

Rob Rang


Dane Brugler

Why in the world would Rang think Kubiak will still be here if we're picking 4th?

chuck 10-27-2013 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua (Post 35935)
Why in the world would Rang think Kubiak will still be here if we're picking 4th?

Maybe he has McNair's phone number.

I like how a couple of months ago in mock drafts we were picking 30th.

HPF Bob 10-28-2013 09:00 AM

Yeah, depressing that we're now picking in the Top 5 like old times. But, hey, they could be like the Astros and have the #1 pick every year.

nunusguy 10-28-2013 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 35944)
Yeah, depressing that we're now picking in the Top 5 like old times. But, hey, they could be like the Astros and have the #1 pick every year.

I think I like picking #1 better than #4 with the new flatter, less progressive CBA. And look at KC, only remaining unbeaten team in the league right now after picking #1 in the Draft just 5 months ago. If you are gonna blow it up, might as well blow it up big-time so you know you've got a new regime coming in along with the top pick in the Draft ? And who's this upcoming off seasons Andy Reid ?

painekiller 10-30-2013 04:00 PM

Walters 10.30.13
 
Walters 10.30.13

#7 Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M
Quote:

Wide receiver is not a top need for the Texans, but there isn't a better match for them in this scenario than Mike Evans. They spent a first-round pick on another wideout last year, but the position could be addressed again. Andre Johnson, 33 in July, is owed $28 million over the next three years. That's way too much for a cap-strapped Houston squad. They may ask him to renegotiate, but Johnson, sensing he has just one more shot at a big pay day, may want to move on to a team with a more stable quarterbacking situation.

Pick change; previously Taylor Lewan, OT
#39 Stephen Morris, QB, Miami
Quote:

Case Keenum will get a chance to prove himself for the rest of the season. If he doesn't convince Houston's front office that he can be a solid starter, the team will attempt to find a franchise quarterback in the spring.
#71 Shayne Skov, ILB, Stanford
Quote:

The Texans really wanted to add some inside linebackers in the 2013 NFL Draft, but never got around to it (Arthur Brown was snagged off the board right before they picked in Round 2). They remain pretty thin at the position, especially in the wake of yet another injury to Brian Cushing.

Pick change; previously Yawin Smallwood, ILB
I could live with Evans, to go with Hopkins and Posey, that would have the potential to be one of the best young WR corps in the league. If I am looking at QB in the 2nd, I have to do more research before commenting, my pick is still Jeffcoat from UT, and I would be very happy to have Skov slide to our 3rd pick. He can cover and has skills.

painekiller 11-22-2013 03:32 PM

Walters 11.19.2013
 
3 Anthony Barr, DE/OLB, UCLA
Quote:

Charlie Campbell's mock has slotted Anthony Barr to Houston for a couple of weeks now, and it makes a ton of sense. The Texans aren't getting much of a pass rush from their outside linebackers. Whitney Mercilus hasn't done much outside of the Seattle game, while Brooks Reed has been an even greater disappointment.

Anthony Barr is the best player available; some argue that he should be chosen before Jadeveon Clowney. A former running back, Barr played defense for the first time last season and made an instant impact, recording 13 sacks. He has 14.5 TFL and seven sacks through 10 games this season. The sky's the limit for him, as he'll only get better at his new position.

Pick change; previously Brett Hundley, QB
34 Tajh Boyd, QB, Clemson
Quote:

Case Keenum played well prior to the Oakland game, but things started to fall apart for him. If he finishes poorly, the Texans will likely draft a quarterback in the top two rounds.

Tajh Boyd struggled in a big game against Florida State and has some height issues, which is why I've moved him down in my mock draft. However, he's still worthy of being chosen in the 20-40 range.

Pick change; previously Ryan Shazier, LB
69 Shayne Skov, ILB, Stanford
Quote:

The Texans really wanted to add some inside linebackers in the 2013 NFL Draft, but never got around to it (Arthur Brown was snagged off the board right before they picked in Round 2). They remain pretty thin at the position, especially in the wake of yet another injury to Brian Cushing.

Pick change; previously A.J. McCarron, QB

painekiller 11-24-2013 03:20 PM

My take after the 9th straight loss

2 Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M ;this is early for him by a few slots, but he is the most can't miss pick IMO

34 Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU; has a huge arm, and has played in Cam Cameron's offense this season. Aaron Murray is having knee surgery so might be a nice pick up later in this draft for insurance.

66 Shayne Skov, ILB, Stanford ; I have been mocking him to the Texans for two seasons, so why stop now.

HPF Bob 11-24-2013 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by painekiller (Post 36494)
My take after the 9th straight loss

2 Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M ;this is early for him by a few slots, but he is the most can't miss pick IMO

34 Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU; has a huge arm, and has played in Cam Cameron's offense this season. Aaron Murray is having knee surgery so might be a nice pick up later in this draft for insurance.

66 Shayne Skov, ILB, Stanford ; I have been mocking him to the Texans for two seasons, so why stop now.

I hope there's a better option than Mettenberger who has never really wowed me but, otherwise, I'd be thrilled with this draft.

The only QB I've been impressed with this college year may be going to prison instead of going pro. Who we take as a QB may depend on who is the head coach.

I'll admit, I've only had two good looks at Bridgewater. One was the Orange Bowl win last year when he was amazing and the other was the loss to UCF this year when he looked very ordinary.

If we're drafting #1 or #2, I've got to give Clowney a serious look.

painekiller 11-25-2013 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by painekiller (Post 36494)
My take after the 9th straight loss

2 Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M ;this is early for him by a few slots, but he is the most can't miss pick IMO

34 Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU; has a huge arm, and has played in Cam Cameron's offense this season. Aaron Murray is having knee surgery so might be a nice pick up later in this draft for insurance.

66 Shayne Skov, ILB, Stanford ; I have been mocking him to the Texans for two seasons, so why stop now.

I want to acknowledge that I have watched little college football this season, and even less pro football. So I am going to hold off on creating anymore of my own takes on mocks until after I watch some bowl games and senior bowl practices.

I am reading some takes on Matthews being overrated and slow footed. I will not be able to see that unless he goes to the Senior Bowl and is exposed like Winston was in 2006.

Also I have only watched a handful of QBs who will be in this draft. So i have little actual knowledge of them.

So I hope I am able to keep my word on this. :eek:

painekiller 11-27-2013 03:42 PM

Walters 11.25.2013

2 Jadeveon Clowney, DE/OLB, South Carolina
Quote:

This is an obvious pick with Jadeveon Clowney on the board. Some call Clowney the top defensive prospect to come along in years. Clowney has motivational problems, as Charlie Campbell reported before anyone else about two months ago. Clowney is having a mediocre season, but teams will overlook that in favor of his talent. There were similar concerns with Julius Peppers coming out of North Carolina in 2002, and he still went No. 2 overall.

The Texans aren't getting much of a pass rush from their outside linebackers. Whitney Mercilus hasn't done much outside of the Seattle game, while Brooks Reed has been an even greater disappointment. Clowney would provide a huge boost.

Pick change; previously Anthony Barr, DE/OLB
33 Tajh Boyd, QB, Clemson
Quote:

Case Keenum played well prior to the Oakland game, but things have fallen apart for him. If he finishes poorly, the Texans will likely draft a quarterback in the top two rounds.

Tajh Boyd struggled in a big game against Florida State and has some height issues, which is why I've moved him down in my mock draft. However, he's still worthy of being chosen in the 20-40 range.
67 Shayne Skov, ILB, Stanford
Quote:

The Texans really wanted to add some inside linebackers in the 2013 NFL Draft, but never got around to it (Arthur Brown was snagged off the board right before they picked in Round 2). They remain pretty thin at the position, especially in the wake of yet another injury to Brian Cushing.
I could live with this one.

HPF Bob 11-28-2013 12:58 PM

Live with it? I'd love it but I am having my doubts that either Boyd will fall to the second or Skov will fall to the third. Keep in mind, too, that if J-ville picks ahead of us, they may take a guy they think we really want or make us trade up to get the guy we really want.

Given that the Hags are in just as deep a QB hole as we are, I wonder if we can hustle them into trading with us and maybe adding another pick. I think they'll either play us or we'll play them (on draft day, that is, as opposed to the regular schedule).

HPF Bob 11-28-2013 01:04 PM

Clowney reminds me a bit of Warren Sapp - unmotivated pothead at Dah U who everyone knew had off-the-charts ability but he fell all the way to 14th and Tampa who never regretted it. If we can keep Clowney's head on straight, he'll be a Hall-of-Famer.

Joshua 11-29-2013 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 36557)
Clowney reminds me a bit of Warren Sapp - unmotivated pothead at Dah U who everyone knew had off-the-charts ability but he fell all the way to 14th and Tampa who never regretted it. If we can keep Clowney's head on straight, he'll be a Hall-of-Famer.

As i understand it, the knock on Clowney is whether he has a burning desire to play football. Although he had some off-the-field issues, i don't recall anyone questioning Sapp's desire once the game started.

To me, the better comparison is our last No. 1 pick--Mario Williams. Absolute physical specimen with a question mark about his motor.

painekiller 11-29-2013 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua (Post 36559)
As i understand it, the knock on Clowney is whether he has a burning desire to play football. Although he had some off-the-field issues, i don't recall anyone questioning Sapp's desire once the game started.

To me, the better comparison is our last No. 1 pick--Mario Williams. Absolute physical specimen with a question mark about his motor.

That's who I would compare him to. And I think the Texans became frustrated by Mario's on again off again motor. I don't see them touching Clowney because of the Mario experience.

WMH 11-29-2013 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by painekiller (Post 36560)
That's who I would compare him to. And I think the Texans became frustrated by Mario's on again off again motor. I don't see them touching Clowney because of the Mario experience.

The new regime wouldn't have picked Mario. Fresh blood = Fresh decisions.

painekiller 11-29-2013 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WMH (Post 36563)
The new regime wouldn't have picked Mario. Fresh blood = Fresh decisions.

Bob McNair is the person I remember listening to, he was talking about this in an interview. And he is not going any where in the near future.

McNair also mentioned Carr as a did not love the game type. He said they have now added love of the game into the profile they use to rate players.

barrett 11-29-2013 06:18 PM

Mario was a very good draft pick. The rest of the top 5 was Bush, VY, D'Brickshaw Ferguson, and AJ Hawk. Mario is the best player of any of them. I would also take him over the rest of the top 10 (Vernon Davis, Michael Huff, Whitner, Ernie Sims and Matt Leinhart round out the top 10). I hope if another Mario came along we would absolutely be open to drafting him.

Mario's biggest problem is he is judged by what he could be and not against the standards of mere mortals. Sure the guy could be Reggie White good if he really cared about football, but even only caring a bit he is a very good/great player at the 2nd most important position in football.

If Clowney is another Mario type you draft him and hope you have the coaching staff to get him to play hard.


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