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popanot 12-30-2012 03:04 PM

Colts game Post-Mortem
 
That's about as pathetic as it gets to close out a season.

Arky 12-30-2012 03:09 PM

I'm pointing at the 2 Schaub INT's, the Colts kickoff return TD and the refs blowing the Luck fumble as the game changers. The Colts didn't commit a turnover.. the Texans committed 2....

Foster was 16 carries for 96 yds. - no problem there.

AJ caught 12 for 141 - no problem there.

Defense allowed 3 TD's, Special teams 1 TD.... Defense couldn't get the stop when they needed it.....

nunusguy 12-30-2012 03:10 PM

Wonder what Lance "My Daddys a coach, My Daddys a coach" Zierland will have to say about this game this coming week ? I know two other 790 guys, "In The Trenches" ND Kulu & Greg Koch, both guaranteed a Texans' victory. Of course everybody seemed confidant that Indy would be using reserves in the second
half, I know I was ?

chuck 12-30-2012 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 33302)
Wonder what Lance "My Daddys a coach, My Daddys a coach" Zierland will have to say about this game this coming week ? I know two other 790 guys, "In The Trenches" ND Kulu & Greg Koch, both guaranteed a Texans' victory. Of course everybody seemed confidant that Indy would be using reserves in the second
half, I know I was ?

Since I've been watching the Texans all year I knew perfectly well the Texans would get their asses kicked.

TheMatrix31 12-30-2012 03:14 PM

I've had no deep trust in this team since Brian Cushing was injured intentionally. Knew his loss would be the death knell.

Joshua 12-30-2012 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 33302)
Wonder what Lance "My Daddys a coach, My Daddys a coach" Zierland will have to say about this game this coming week ? I know two other 790 guys, "In The Trenches" ND Kulu & Greg Koch, both guaranteed a Texans' victory. Of course everybody seemed confidant that Indy would be using reserves in the second
half, I know I was ?

That surprises me that 2 former players would have discounted Pagano's comeback. Football teams are families, and insulated ones at that, which routinely adopt an "us against the world" attitude. I'm not surprised in the least that the Colts did everything they could to get Pagano a win and said as much last week. After watching guys shave their head and almost cry in press conferences when talking about him, why would anyone have thought they would just lay down?

Arky 12-30-2012 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 33302)
Wonder what Lance "My Daddys a coach, My Daddys a coach" Zierland will have to say about this game this coming week ? I know two other 790 guys, "In The Trenches" ND Kulu & Greg Koch, both guaranteed a Texans' victory. Of course everybody seemed confidant that Indy would be using reserves in the second
half, I know I was ?

Ya, man, I so disliked the Manning Colts and it looks like it will continue with the Luck Colts..... Up two scores, passing on 3rd down with time running out to get the 1st down... smh.....

Big Texas 12-30-2012 03:22 PM

My rant...

Shaub underthrows for an interception & overthrows for an interception

So I guess this means that his deep accuracy is SHIT...

If I were cincy, I would stack nine in the box and force Shaub to beat them deep...

I know they gave up a lot of points but I am not too upset with the defense. Its expected that offenses will step up their game as the playoffs approach.

What I am upset at is the special teams for their complete worthlessness all game and all year. (side note: Martin wanted the TD...Keo was happy with the long return...coaches mentality "Ok with being Ok").

I am obviously upset with Shaub for what we have already known for a few years now...

The dropped TD by Johnson was not a big deal. Things like that happen ONCE...

Oh and not to mention the overthrow to Lestar Jean up the sideline...Luck completed his, why shouldn't Shaub complete his...

yes I know I am all over the place...but it's becoming redundant and the coaching staff seems like they are ok with having a good record...

Oh and how about the fact that the Bengals will be gunning for us after last year...I'm done for now...

popanot 12-30-2012 03:27 PM

Thinking the Colts would lay down for anyone - let alone a division rival - is about as assinine as thinking the Texans were holding stuff back in fear of tipping off a future opponent. But then again, we do have the Kubiak factor at play here...

Arky 12-30-2012 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by popanot (Post 33308)
Thinking the Colts would lay down for anyone - let alone a division rival - is about as assinine as thinking the Texans were holding stuff back in fear of tipping off a future opponent. But then again, we do have the Kubiak factor at play here...

Assinine is a little strong, it's the time of year when teams rest starters.... Apparently the Colts didn't get the memo.... They didn't improve their seeding..... They get a W for the their coach... Yay.

I don't expect them to go very far in the playoffs but maybe they surprise being so young and all.... maybe they might wish they hadn't spent so much effort in defeating the Texans.... just a thought...

barrett 12-30-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by WMH (Post 33298)
You still think its more on the play calling?
Piss poor effort ever since the NE beat down.

Yes and Yes. I don't think it has to be one or the other. I think we are coasting in every sense. Lazy and sloppy play perfectly paired with lazy and sloppy coaching.

We failed on ST, Offense, Defense, Coaching (brutal challenge early in the game, wasted timeout so we could try a 53 yard FG that had no chance at going in). This is a team wide collapse.

The defense could not get off the field in the 4th quarter for the 2nd week in a row. The offense is bad between the 20s and worse in the redzone. We have now called about 5 bootlegs in the past month after hitting it 6-8 times a game through 12 weeks. All of the straight drop backs mean our OL is being badly exposed for the things they can't do.

And to top it all, the refs slobbered all over this Colts team for 4 quarters. I almost understand calls going against us vs. the Steelers or Patriots (Bob's complaint), but a team of rookies gets loved up on all day. The NFL has gotten terrible league wide this year about how many PI flags come based on the WR mini fit after an incompletion. Of course we don't have a guy on the roster who will ask for a call, so we get none when AJ is mugged, but give up phantom calls all over (in the endzone before the 1st TD, the start of the long 4th quarter drive to put the game away). Its almost like these teams have a coach working the officials from the sideline all game...

Kubiak just has far too much Washington General in him. He is the opponent, the other guy. Now I just have to decide if I want to lose to Cincy so I have some hope of real change, or if I want to tease myself along until we get stomped in Foxboro.

nunusguy 12-30-2012 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck (Post 33303)
Since I've been watching the Texans all year I knew perfectly well the Texans would get their asses kicked.

Then you probably saw that big spread going into the game, took the Colts and the points, & made a killing right Chuck ?

barrett 12-30-2012 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by popanot (Post 33308)
Thinking the Colts would lay down for anyone - let alone a division rival - is about as assinine as thinking the Texans were holding stuff back in fear of tipping off a future opponent. But then again, we do have the Kubiak factor at play here...

Do you watch week 16 and 17 in the NFL every year? Assinine was the Colts not laying down today. Now they get to go to Denver and get smashed.

As for play calling, I agree it would be idiotic to hold back, I just don't see another possible explanation for why we stopped running everything that worked in our offense a month ago. Ocham's razor tells me the simplest explanation is the likliest, and the simplest explanation is Kubiak is an idiot.

chuck 12-30-2012 03:39 PM

Why the hell should we want the Texans to come in and play half a Colts team? They had two opportunities to simply win a football game and wrap up home field. Huge. Instead they choke, twice. Kubiak and Schaub are made for each other. They are both pathetic, nutless pussies.

barrett 12-30-2012 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 33311)
Then you probably saw that big spread going into the game, took the Colts and the points, & made a killing right Chuck ?

Why would you try to rob Chuck of his cynicism? Smugly asserting he knew it was coming (after the fact) is what allows him to deal with it. I wish I had a coping mechanism half as reliable.

Joshua 12-30-2012 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Arky (Post 33309)
Assinine is a little strong, it's the time of year when teams rest starters.... Apparently the Colts didn't get the memo.... They didn't improve their seeding..... They get a W for the their coach... Yay.

I don't expect them to go very far in the playoffs but maybe they surprise being so young and all.... maybe they might wish they hadn't spent so much effort in defeating the Texans.... just a thought...

Every situation is different and this one was particularly unique. Even being locked into a 5 seed, the Colts were a team with a head coach coming back from cancer treatment and a starting QB making his 16th career start. Both from an emotion and reps stanpoint, it made sense to play this one. Also, with the texans playing for a No. 1 seed, the colts basically just got a great playoff primer for their young and inexperienced team. Why would they not take advantage of that?

chuck 12-30-2012 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 33311)
Then you probably saw that big spread going into the game, took the Colts and the points, & made a killing right Chuck ?

I don't care about the spread, I care about the Texans winning. And I was sure they would not.

chuck 12-30-2012 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrett (Post 33314)
Why would you try to rob Chuck of his cynicism? Smugly asserting he knew it was coming (after the fact) is what allows him to deal with it. I wish I had a coping mechanism half as reliable.

Except I am perfectly able to prove my assertion. Sadly my ability to foresee the outcome does not in any way assist me in coping.

popanot 12-30-2012 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett (Post 33312)
Do you watch week 16 and 17 in the NFL every year? Assinine was the Colts not laying down today. Now they get to go to Denver and get smashed.

As for play calling, I agree it would be idiotic to hold back, I just don't see another possible explanation for why we stopped running everything that worked in our offense a month ago. Ocham's razor tells me the simplest explanation is the likliest, and the simplest explanation is Kubiak is an idiot and is holding back.

Ok, assinine is a little strong, but the Colts were 1) playing a division rival who has never beaten them at home and who they'd like nothing more than to screw going into the playoffs, 2) have thier ill HC back for the first time in months, 3) are young, and unlike the Texans, want to go into the playoffs with some semblence of momentum, and 4) were burnt a few year ago by resting their starters which I'm sure the fans and news stations have reminded them of repeatedly this week. Normally, I'd wholeheartedly agree with your point, and maybe with any other team, but this Colts team had a lot to play for this week than just a potential playoff location.

Arky 12-30-2012 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett (Post 33312)
........why we stopped running everything that worked in our offense a month ago. ................

I thought they started opening up there in the 3rd and 4th quarter but it was like they were so "rusty", they didn't connect. Was nice to see some long passes (even if they were inc or INT"ed)...

barrett 12-30-2012 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Arky (Post 33319)
I thought they started opening up there in the 3rd and 4th quarter but it was like they were so "rusty", they didn't connect. Was nice to see some long passes (even if they were inc or INT"ed)...

Yes, the ball did go downfield again, even if it didn't work. That coincided with when the running game started to work again. But then we just stopped running it and found new ways to lose.

The Texans just aren't a very well coached football team. We have a solid scheme and talent, but nobody to lead them. The head coach cannot be a cardboard cutout like Jim Caldwell unless the QB is Peyton Manning. We have a whole bunch of nice guys. That is different than good or bad. You don't need criminals to win football games, but you do need someone who will do what it takes. Someone with an ego big enough that they will cut anyone's heart out to win (an ego big enough to publicly endorse Uggs even).

We are the Chargers from earlier this decade. Plenty of talent, plenty of success offensively and defensively, lots of success, but when it comes down to it, never going to win when it counts. I wonder if Kubiak will get to stick around through as many 9-12 win seasons as Norv Turner did. That way he can finish wasting AJ like Norv wasted LT.

Arky 12-30-2012 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua (Post 33315)
Every situation is different and this one was particularly unique. Even being locked into a 5 seed, the Colts were a team with a head coach coming back from cancer treatment and a starting QB making his 16th career start. Both from an emotion and reps stanpoint, it made sense to play this one. Also, with the texans playing for a No. 1 seed, the colts basically just got a great playoff primer for their young and inexperienced team. Why would they not take advantage of that?

I see your point but going balls-to-the-wall for 4 quarters for essentially nothing but the experience? For their sake, hopefully no one got injured....I believe the Texans were even substituting towards the end. There were players - Ball/Routt/Reed/Caldwell held out to get healthy - this was not a Texans team going all in.....

nunusguy 12-30-2012 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck (Post 33317)
Sadly my ability to foresee the outcome does not in any way assist me in coping.

But by applying his clairvoyant skills, could not the Chuckster produce a monetary consolation for himself by way of some well placed wagers ?

Arky 12-30-2012 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck (Post 33316)
I don't care about the spread, I care about the Texans winning. And I was sure they would not.

Yep, Chuck picked the Colts in the Pickem league.... good call, Chuck...

chuck 12-30-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 33322)
But by applying his clairvoyant skills, could not the Chuckster produce a monetary consolation for himself by way of some well placed wagers.

Could not, no, did not, yes.

popanot 12-30-2012 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Arky (Post 33321)
I see your point but going balls-to-the-wall for 4 quarters for essentially nothing but the experience? For their sake, hopefully no one got injured....I believe the Texans were even substituting towards the end. There were players - Ball/Routt/Reed/Caldwell held out to get healthy - this was not a Texans team going all in.....

I think Ruud and Reed where out there b/c Dobbins and Sharpton got hurt. Kuibak said in his post-game presser that he's very concerned about those two.

Arky 12-30-2012 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by popanot (Post 33325)
I think Ruud and Reed where out there b/c Dobbins and Sharpton got hurt. Kuibak said in his post-game presser that he's very concerned about those two.

Ruud, yes, but Reed was on the inactives list...

popanot 12-30-2012 04:20 PM

Broncos and Pats both taking care of business. Texans, not so much... :rolleyes:

Keith 12-30-2012 04:56 PM

1-3 over the last four games to surrender the #1 seed is a slow, painful choke. I'm used to Houston teams just choking over a half, maybe a half plus overtime.

HPF Bob 12-30-2012 05:06 PM

I'm starting to think Schaub is the white Warren Moon... piles up good stats but somehow manages to stink when he's needed most. Looks like we are hosting the Bagels for the second straight year then probably getting blown out in Foxboro. Bagels went on a 7-1 run to close the season so maybe they get their revenge this year.

TheMatrix31 12-30-2012 05:07 PM

Losing in NE is going to suck really, really bad. As if Boston sports fans weren't insufferable enough.

barrett 12-30-2012 10:27 PM

I've been miserable all day and didn't think it could get worse, than I remembered that at least I'm not a cowboys fan.

chuck 12-30-2012 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett (Post 33336)
I've been miserable all day and didn't think it could get worse, than I remembered that at least I'm not a cowboys fan.

Amen to that. Although those idiots have been tethered to Romo for years. Romo and Schaub have very different sets of problems but I wonder if we're in for something similar in the upcoming years.

But hey, we WILL have a bigger video display next year. Those H.E.B. commercials will be super clear.

Keith 12-30-2012 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck (Post 33339)
But hey, we WILL have a bigger video display next year. Those H.E.B. commercials will be super clear.

True. I'm still upset over the last video screen update to add additional BLINDING advertisements MID-GAME.

Unrelated, should the Texans offense find its head out of its ass on Saturday to win, they play the late Sunday game at New England the following week. The extra day of rest is probably meaningless to the Patriots, but could be very helpful to the Texans.

ETA - Texans are early favorites, -4.5.

chuck 12-30-2012 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith (Post 33341)
True. I'm still upset over the last video screen update to add additional BLINDING advertisements MID-GAME.

The team's manifest interest in selling shit to their fans rather than providing a whole football experience was a huge reason why I no longer contribute to the McNair Charity Fund. But we needn't get into that again.

HPF Bob 12-31-2012 11:37 AM

Adding a huge scoreboard sure helped the Astros. :rolleyes:

cadams 12-31-2012 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith (Post 33341)

Unrelated, should the Texans offense find its head out of its ass on Saturday to win, they play the late Sunday game at New England the following week. The extra day of rest is probably meaningless to the Patriots, but could be very helpful to the Texans.

ETA - Texans are early favorites, -4.5.

while i still feel like the texans should win the game this week, after watching them the last month i really only give them a 50/50 shot. i think that the new england game really destroyed schaub's psyche

chuck 12-31-2012 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 33350)
Adding a huge scoreboard sure helped the Astros. :rolleyes:

I'm particularly fond of the giant advertisements I mean the tribute to OUTSTANDING community leaders in left field that mars the once lovely view of downtown. But that's not an issue that I will have to grapple with going forward, either.


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