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nero THE zero 08-07-2009 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by papabear (Post 12663)
That meshes perfectly with what I thought of him from the practices I went too. Definitely fast with the skillset to be a solid corner....but he had serious issues trying to bump/jamp WR at the line. He also got abused as a gunner on punt coverage teams several times. He was just repeatedly thrown to the grown on rep.

Since we're supposedly going to do some bump and run stuff and want our CB's on the line jamming WR's that could be a problem for him....but he's definitely got potential.

It's interesting that we drafted him because our M.O. for our secondary has consistently been guys with size and athleticism. They must have a specific design in mind for McCain because he is not the typical secondary draftee of this regime.

papabear 08-07-2009 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nero THE zero (Post 12665)
It's interesting that we drafted him because our M.O. for our secondary has consistently been guys with size and athleticism. They must have a specific design in mind for McCain because he is not the typical secondary draftee of this regime.

I think once you get down to the 6th round your aren't necessarily looking for the prototype. It's either a project or just the best football player left...which seems to be the case. His size is likely why he slipped so far to begin with, but that late in the draft I'm sure the Texans looked at him and said here's a a solid football player with some top flight speed. I'm sure they probably thought he might be more of a return guy initially, but he seems to be getting more play at CB now.

Keith 08-07-2009 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nero THE zero (Post 12662)
Keith, PK, etc., is McCain playing ahead of Quin based on merit or is Quin playing second team to catch up due to lost reps forced by injury?

Before Quin got nicked up last week, he was ahead of McCain, actually the starter at nickel (behind Reeves and Bennett) with Robinson sitting out of training camp and with Molden on the PUP.

nero THE zero 08-07-2009 04:11 PM

Also, what's up with Troy Nolan? I haven't heard a word about him since both Gibbs and Kubiak referred to him as "that other rookie defensive back I can't recall the name of right now" in OTAs.

Doesn't sound too promising.

painekiller 08-07-2009 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nero THE zero (Post 12674)
Also, what's up with Troy Nolan? I haven't heard a word about him since both Gibbs and Kubiak referred to him as "that other rookie defensive back I can't recall the name of right now" in OTAs.

Doesn't sound too promising.

Kind of sums it up doesn't it. I have not noticed him, but then again I keep forgetting him at the bottom of the depth chart. Most likely a PS guy this season.

Keith 08-07-2009 11:49 PM

If you think the battle for OLB playing time is happening only on the field, then your missing a whole 'nother aspect to it.

In Twitter.

Okay, I never said the other aspect was worthwhile :p, but here is a TwitWar being waged between Diles and June:
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Diles: I might have to put hands on Cato if his ankle tape keeps crossin the line into my locker space...real talk

June: You don't have a line young fella.. Matter of fact I might make you clean up my locker

Diles: oh is that your word...try me then if you feelin froggish and see if your locker looks the same the next day...

June: You keep playin with me and I'm going to steal all your left cleats

Diles: all my left cleats huh...you won't do that if your in your RIGHT mind...tweet beef cuz..

edo783 08-08-2009 12:46 AM

Funny stuff. Sounds like they are loose and having some fun.

nunusguy 08-08-2009 07:42 AM

I actually would have preferred that the Texans draft diminutive CB Alphonso Smith from Wake forest with their first round pick instead of Cushman on the theory that we really needed help at the all-important corner back position and that competant 4-3 Sams can be had in the mid-rounds.
Well Brice McCain may be a poor mans version of Alphonso Smith (who is also only 5'9"), who had remarkable ball skills but not the top-end speed of McCain. BTW Smith ended up going high in the second round (37th overall)
to th Broncos.

NBT 08-08-2009 12:31 PM

NUN, can't say I agree with that assesment. While I might have gone for Mathews with #15, I think Cushing was a better choice now in retrospect.

mussop 08-08-2009 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by papabear (Post 12663)
That meshes perfectly with what I thought of him from the practices I went too. Definitely fast with the skillset to be a solid corner....but he had serious issues trying to bump/jamp WR at the line. He also got abused as a gunner on punt coverage teams several times. He was just repeatedly thrown to the grown on rep.

Since we're supposedly going to do some bump and run stuff and want our CB's on the line jamming WR's that could be a problem for him....but he's definitely got potential.

Sounds like a perfect candidate for a nickel back.

painekiller 08-08-2009 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NBT (Post 12690)
NUN, can't say I agree with that assesment. While I might have gone for Mathews with #15, I think Cushing was a better choice now in retrospect.

Not me. I am still not sold. Trade me down and get me Brown from UConn and CB Alphonso Smith from Wake. Trouble is finding a willing trading partner.

NBT 08-08-2009 04:51 PM

OK, PK, you are on record with me at least. But I think you are fair minded, and by the end of the first two or three games you will see why you should change your mind.


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