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Neither do I. But that's why you try multiple boards multiple times because "you never know". I don't think we can get 4-for-1 trade downs either but they are so hard to resist.
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I'm hoping another round of board updates comes out soon because this is using a CBS board from 3/22..
Now that I know we are set at QB and probably not using a high pick on a developmental QB, here's my latest with trade downs: 30: R1P30 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA 52: R2P21 DT AUSTIN JOHNSON PENN STATE 71: R3P8 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD 85: R3P22 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS 109: R4P11 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD 119: R4P21 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH STATE 159: R5P20 WR CHARONE PEAKE CLEMSON 166: R5P27 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE 195: R6P20 S KEANU NEAL FLORIDA TRADE PARTNER: CAROLINA PANTHERS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 1 PICK: 30 ROUND: 2 PICK: 31 TRADE PARTNER: NEW YORK GIANTS SENT: ROUND: 2 PICK: 31 RECEIVED: ROUND: 3 PICK: 8 ROUND: 4 PICK: 11 |
30: R1P30 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
52: R2P21 DT AUSTIN JOHNSON PENN STATE 71: R3P8 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD 85: R3P22 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS 109: R4P11 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD 119: R4P21 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH STATE 159: R5P20 WR CHARONE PEAKE CLEMSON 166: R5P27 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE 195: R6P20 S KEANU NEAL FLORIDA If we get Ryan Kelly, Joshua Garnett, Austin Hooper, and Matt Ioannidis; I will be overjoyed. In fact, I would be pretty freaking happy just to see Kelly and Garnett on the O-Line. Nice job with these picks. :D |
Optimum Scouting Database 3/30
22: R1p22 wr josh docston tcu
54: R2p23 te hunter henry arkansas 92: R3p29 g christian western arizona state 119: R4p21 dt javon hargrave south carolina st 159: R5p20 cb artie burns miami (fl) 160: R5p21 rb cj prosise notre dame 166: R5p27 qb dak prescott mississippi state 167: R5p28 s tyvis powell ohio state 195: R6p20 g joe dahl washington state 245: R7p24 de matt judon grand valley state trades trade partner: Minnesota vikings sent: Round: 2 pick: 21 received: Round: 2 pick: 23 round: 5 pick: 21 trade partner: Arizona cardinals sent: Round: 3 pick: 24 received: Round: 3 pick: 29 round: 5 pick: 28 trade partner: Cincinnati bengals sent: Round: 3 pick: 22 received: Round: 3 pick: 24 round: 7 pick: 24 |
Arrowhead
52: R2P21 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
53: R2P22 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD 84: R3P21 RB KENNETH DIXON LOUISIANA TECH. 111: R4P13 OLB KAMALEI CORREA BOISE ST. 119: R4P21 S SEAN DAVIS MARYLAND 120: R4P22 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BRIGHAM YOUNG 151: R5P12 DT JAVON HARGRAVE S. CAROLINA ST. 158: R5P19 G CONNOR MCGOVERN MISSOURI 159: R5P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA 166: R5P27 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA 169: R5P30 C GRAHAM GLASGOW MICHIGAN 191: R6P16 CB KEIVARAE RUSSELL NOTRE DAME 195: R6P20 WR CODY CORE OLE MISS TRADES TRADE PARTNER: WASHINGTON REDSKINS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 2 PICK: 22 ROUND: 3 PICK: 21 ROUND: 4 PICK: 22 ROUND: 5 PICK: 19 TRADE PARTNER: DETROIT LIONS SENT: ROUND: 3 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 4 PICK: 13 ROUND: 5 PICK: 12 ROUND: 5 PICK: 30 ROUND: 6 PICK: 16 I was hesitant to lose a first round pick but believe that I could get value in the middle rounds. Ryan Kelly came off the board at #21. Conklin was still there and was selected at #30. Doctson came off the board at #32. Overall, I was pleased with the GROUP. |
With The First Pick Database 3/26
27: R1p27 lb darron lee ohio state
52: R2p21 wr sterling shepard oklahoma 88: R3p25 g christian westernman arizona state 111: R4p13 de carl nassib penn state 119: R4p21 rb kenneth dixon louisiana tech 125: R4p27 olb charles tapper oklahoma 151: R5p12 dt javon hargrave south carolina state 159: R5p20 te tyler higbee western kentucky 166: R5p27 wr malcolm mitchell georgia 169: R5p30 g joe dahl washington state 191: R6p16 qb kevin hogan stanford 195: R6p20 g joe thuney nc state trades trade partner: Detroit lions sent: Round: 3 pick: 22 received: Round: 4 pick: 13 round: 5 pick: 12 round: 5 pick: 30 round: 6 pick: 16 trade partner: Green bay packers sent: Round: 1 pick: 22 received: Round: 1 pick: 27 round: 3 pick: 25 round: 4 pick: 27 |
I found Arrowhead's board the most realistic of the three, which was a surprise.
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Risen Breakdown 3/28
TRADES
TRADE PARTNER: LA RAMS SENT: ROUND: 3 PICK: 22 ROUND: 4 PICK: 21 RECEIVED: ROUND: 3 PICK: 13 TRADE PARTNER: KANSAS CITY CHIEFS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 1 PICK: 28 ROUND: 4 PICK: 28 ROUND: 5 PICK: 23 ROUND: 5 PICK: 26 28: R1P28 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE 52: R2P21 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD 76: R3P13 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS 126: R4P28 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE 159: R5P20 RB KENYAN DRAKE ALABAMA 162: R5P23 ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ STANFORD 165: R5P26 S TYVIS POWELL OHIO STATE 166: R5P27 DT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA 195: R6P20 QB KEVIN HOGAN STANFORD I was happy to trade down with KC and get extra picks. Darron Lee was off the board @ #19. Ryan Kelly was selected @ #26, but I got my favorite LT not named Tunsil. Adding Garnett upgrades the OL. I moved up to select the first TE off the board @ #76. Vannett went @ #81 and Higbee went @ #88. I missed out on WRs Doctson #30, Thomas #31, Shepard #36, Mitchell #120, Garrett #153. Drake can spell Lamar Miller and brings Return ability. Martinez is not fast, but he is a tackling machine. Powell will be a starting Safety in the league. Collins was a surprise and is one of My Guys, but not one of my Favorites. However, I couldn't pass on his talent in the 5th round. Collins and Ioannidis augment the D-Line. Kevin Hogan makes trading Hoyer an easy decision. |
Bleacher Report 3/21
Traded future picks to get back into the late rounds....
TRADES TRADE PARTNER: OAKLAND RAIDERS SENT: FUTURE ROUND 6 PICK RECEIVED: ROUND: 7 PICK: 13 TRADE PARTNER: SEATTLE SEAHAWKS SENT: FUTURE ROUND 5 PICK RECEIVED: ROUND: 7 PICK: 4 22: R1P22 ILB DARRON LEE OHIO STATE (My Top Favorite) 52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA (The guy I thought I would have to pick #22) 85: R3P22 DE CARL NASSIB PENN STATE (Replaces Crick) 119: R4P21 RB DERRICK HENRY ALABAMA (Really? Still on the board? OK!) 159: R5P20 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA (Needed a WR) 166: R5P27 DT JAVON MARGRAVE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE (My NT of the Future) 195: R6P20 TE JERELL ADAMS SOUTH CAROLINA (Needed a TE) 225: R7P4 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA (Big RedZone Target) 234: R7P13 G JOE THUNEY NC STATE (Athletic and Versatile) |
Arrowhead again
22: R1p22 ot jack conklin michigan st.
55: R2p24 dt jarran reed alabama 85: R3p22 g joshua garnett stanford 119: R4p21 olb kamalei correa boise st. 122: R4p24 s sean davis maryland 159: R5p20 de bronson kaufusi brigham young 166: R5p27 wr malcolm mitchell georgia 195: R6p20 wr keyarris garrett tulsa 223: R7p2 rb daniel lasco california 224: R7p3 qb kevin hogan stanford 243: R7p22 olb victor ochi stony brook trades trade partner: San diego chargers sent: Future round 6 pick received: Round: 7 pick: 3 trade partner: Cincinnati bengals sent: Round: 2 pick: 21 received: Round: 2 pick: 24 round: 4 pick: 24 trade partner: New england patriots sent: Future round 7 pick received:round: 7 pick: 22 trade partner: Cleveland browns sent: Future round 6 pick received: Round: 7 pick: 2 |
Look what fell out of the sky!!
Here's why you mock. Sometimes, the unexpected happens and you have to ask yourself "what will I do?". I used the Fanspeak board but, at 22, I was given several appealing choices: Conklin, a legit LT to plug in when Brown gets injured or needs to be cut. Ragland, the ILB who can be like Patrick Willis and would allow you to drop Cushing's contract after next year. Kelly, the OC I have wanted all along and... Carson Wentz!! - one of the top 2 QBs in the draft! Ok, so we have Osweiler now and this would create controversy but we may never get a chance to draft a QB like this again. You gotta take him, right? Well, I tried to trade down with Denver - no dice. Tried to trade down with the 49ers - not interested. Cleveland had taken Goff. Philly had no 2nds. The Jets would have been falling too far. So after giving it much thought I went with value. I took Wentz. Fortunately, Kelly was still there in the second but I had to alter my draft because I did not have the trade chips I wanted to add more picks. I swapped my third with Baltimore for a pair of fourths and liked overall, what I had done: 22: R1P22 QB CARSON WENTZ NORTH DAKOTA STATE 52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA 104: R4P6 TE TYLER HIGBEE WESTERN KENTUCKY 119: R4P21 RB PAUL PERKINS UCLA 130: R4P32 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA 159: R5P20 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH 166: R5P27 DT ANTWAUN WOODS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 195: R6P20 G CONNOR MCGOVERN MISSOURI TRADE PARTNER: BALTIMORE RAVENS SENT: ROUND: 3 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 4 PICK: 6 ROUND: 4 PICK: 32 We'll have to shop for DE, WR and ILB among the UDFAs. Somehow, I don't think Rick Smith will face this dilemma. |
I would have taken Wentz too. There's only so many players who I would take over Paxton Lynch. Osweiler hasn't proven anything yet.
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He's proven more than Wentz. But if the Texans drafted Wentz, I would make him #3 behind Weeden to start the year and let him know he's not ready and is getting trained for '17. Next year, we'll have a better feel for Osweiler and make it an open competition. In '18, we can trade either QB without a large cap hit and possibly for a big draft haul in return.
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I understand the value of having the bird in hand and I believe that's the reason why we had to sign Oweiler. There's no way of knowing for sure that we could get one of these 'Potential Franchise QBs' in the draft. It's not my money, but it is awfully expensive to have a guy with very limited starts in the NFL. I'm having flashbacks of Matt Flynn. That being said, I hope that signing Brock doesn't preclude the team from drafting a QB if one falls in our laps.
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Fanspeak Database 3/29
38: R2P7 DT JARRAN REED ALABAMA
54: R2P23 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA 72: R3P9 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD 93: R3P30 OLB KAMALEI CORREA BOISE STATE 103: R4P5 DT JAVON MARGRAVE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE 119: R4P21 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME 121: R4P23 QB DAK PRESCOTT MISSISSIPPI STATE 127: R4P29 TE JERELL ADAMS SOUTH CAROLINA 129: R4P31 CB MAURICE CANADY VIRGINIA 159: R5P20 C GRAHAM GLASGOW MICHIGAN 166: R5P27 G CONNOR MCGOVERN MISSOURI 195: R6P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA 199: R6P24 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA 245: R7P24 RB DANIEL LASCO CALIFORNIA TRADES TRADE PARTNER: CHICAGO BEARS SENT: ROUND: 3 PICK: 1 RECEIVED: ROUND: 3 PICK: 9 ROUND: 4 PICK: 29 TRADE PARTNER: CINCINNATI BENGALS SENT: FUTURE ROUND 6 PICK RECEIVED: ROUND: 7 PICK: 24 TRADE PARTNER: CAROLINA PANTHERS SENT: ROUND: 3 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 3 PICK: 30 ROUND: 4 PICK: 31 TRADE PARTNER: JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS SENT: ROUND: 2 PICK: 2 RECEIVED: ROUND: 2 PICK: 7 ROUND: 4 PICK: 5 TRADE PARTNER: CINCINNATI BENGALS SENT: FUTURE ROUND 5 PICK RECEIVED: ROUND: 6 PICK: 24 TRADE PARTNER: TENNESSEE TITANS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 2 PICK: 2 ROUND: 3 PICK: 1 TRADE PARTNER: MINNESOTA VIKINGS SENT: ROUND: 2 PICK: 21 RECEIVED: ROUND: 2 PICK: 23 ROUND: 4 PICK: 23 Nick Vannett went @ #71(R3P8) right before Joshua Garnett. I think I got a bargain in Adams @ #127. I took Glasgow @ #159 when I was trying to decide between him and OT Joe Haeg and Connor McGovern. Hang went @ #160 and I took McGovern @ #166. Hindsight being 20/20 I should have taken Haeg @ #159 and then whoever was left @ #166 to play C since I already had Garnett on the roster. I was surprised that I was able to get Jarran Reed in the 2nd round. Reed and Sterling Shepard have 1st round grades on my draft board, so I was pleased to get them when I did while racking up extra picks. Garnett is my starting RG for the next 8 years. Correa provides insurance when Clowney gets injured and can rotate on passing downs. The prospect of Watt, Reed, and Hargrave is exciting to me. Promise is talented and has a ton of potential receiving out of the backfield. Prescott just needs to keep his nose clean and not be a distraction off the field. I doubt the Texans would draft him, but I've made it be known how I feel about this guy. Canady was a luxury I could afford with all the extra draft picks. At his size, he could potentially be a FS, and having a big CB is always a good thing to have in the tool box. Garrett and Mitchell are my favorite WRs that nobody is talking about and I want them on the roster. I grabbed Lasco for his speed and return ability. I realize that I have a lot of bodies from this draft, but that's less UDFAs I have to call. |
22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA 91: R3P28 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE 119: R4P21 DT JAVON MARGRAVE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE 159: R5P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA 166: R5P27 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA 195: R6P20 QB KEVIN HOGAN STANFORD 196: R6P21 RB KENYAN DRAKE ALABAMA TRADE TRADE PARTNER: NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS SENT: ROUND: 3 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 3 PICK: 28 ROUND: 6 PICK: 21 Really happy with this draft. Attempted to get a couple more picks in the 3rd round but was unable to. I would have liked to have been able to get Bronson Kaufusi to play DE when he came off the board at #85 and NT Maliek Collins at # 74. Overall, I can't complain too much. Conklin and Kelly on the OL is amazing. Vannett is my favorite TE after really studying this group. Hargrove will play the NT. Got my 2 WRs in the 5th round. Got my backup QB and my Change-Of-Pace RB/Returner. |
My Favorite Mock Thus Far...
49: R2p18 wr sterling shepard oklahoma
52: R2p21 g joshua garnett stanford 80: R3p17 de bronson kaufusi brigham young 99: R4p1 te nick vannett ohio st. 117: R4p19 s sean davis maryland 119: R4p21 ilb kamalei correa boise st. 151: R5p12 dt javon hargrave s. Carolina st. 156: R5p17 ot joe haeg n. Dakota st. 166: R5p27 c graham glasgow michigan 169: R5p30 olb yannick ngakoue maryland 191: R6p16 wr malcolm mitchell georgia 195: R6p20 wr keyarris garrett tulsa trades trade partner: Detroit lions sent: Round: 3 pick: 22 received: Round: 4 pick: 13 round: 5 pick: 12 round: 5 pick: 30 round: 6 pick: 16 trade partner: Buffalo bills sent: Round: 1 pick: 22 received: Round: 2 pick: 18 round: 3 pick: 17 round: 4 pick: 19 round: 5 pick: 17 trade partner: Cleveland browns sent: Round: 4 pick: 13 round: 5 pick: 20 received: Round: 4 pick: 1 |
Arrowhead was the only board updated so I tried it. At #22, I could have selected Ragland (Kelly was gone) but the Patriots tempted me with two 2nds, a 3rd and a 6th. I took it but that was lower than I wanted to fall so I traded back up in the second and then traded down once more. I got some good players but I've liked some of my other drafts better.
43: R2P12 S VONN BELL OHIO ST. 61: R2P30 DT ROBERT NKEMDICHE OLE MISS 72: R3P9 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD 85: R3P22 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD 106: R4P8 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS 119: R4P21 DT CHRIS JONES MISS. ST. 159: R5P20 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH ST. 166: R5P27 QB CARDALE JONES OHIO ST. 195: R6P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA 196: R6P21 RB KEITH MARSHALL GEORGIA Nkemdiche and Chris Jones were just too much value to pass up. Cardale, as I mentioned before, I want to try out as a "slash" player. TRADE PARTNER: NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 2 PICK: 29 ROUND: 2 PICK: 30 ROUND: 3 PICK: 28 ROUND: 6 PICK: 21 TRADE PARTNER: CHICAGO BEARS SENT: ROUND: 2 PICK: 29 RECEIVED: ROUND: 3 PICK: 9 ROUND: 4 PICK: 8 TRADE PARTNER: LA RAMS SENT: ROUND: 2 PICK: 21 ROUND: 3 PICK: 28 RECEIVED: ROUND: 2 PICK: 12 |
Been out of town, but I'm back now. Another mock utilizing the CBS board. I traded out of the 1st round for two 2nd round picks. I was not sure that I would like the results, but I did. I wanted to give some props to Roy for making me take a look at a couple of the guys I took in this draft. Also my trade down was attempted in order to target a couple of them in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
52: R2P21 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH 60: R2P29 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD 61: R2P30 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS 85: R3P22 C NICK MARTIN NOTRE DAME 91: R3P28 DE JASON FANAIKA UTAH 119: R4P21 WR KOLBY LISTENBEE TCU 159: R5P20 S KJ DILLON WEST VIRGINIA 166: R5P27 CB BRIEAN BODDY-CALHOUN MINNESOTA 195: R6P20 OLB DADI LHOMME NICOLAS VIRGINIA TECH 196: R6P21 TE HENRY KRIEGER COBLE IOWA TRADE PARTNER: NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 TEXANS RECEIVED: ROUND: 2 PICK: 29 ROUND: 2 PICK: 30 ROUND: 3 PICK: 28 ROUND: 6 PICK: 21 Butler has been high on my list since I watched him at the Senior Bowl. Garnett has a mean streak and seems to fit the proto type guy that Mike Devlin likes to coach. I have not been targeting Garnett in some time, but Roy made a post recently that returned him to a target for me. Having Hunter sitting there at 61 was surprising to me and I jumped, he has the potential to be the best TE the Texans have had since Owen Daniels was in his prime. Next I took my 2nd rated OC, a hole that is begging to be filled. this gives me a OL of Brown, Allen, Martin, Garnett, Hopkins. Su'a-Filo either steps up and beats out one of the rookies or he backs up two positions (OC,OG) either way he moves on when his rookie deal expires. Next pick was another one of Roys guys Fanaika, I have to agree with Roy, he looks like a young JJ. I'm not saying he has the upside of JJ, but no one knew JJ had that upside, and Fanaika is only a late 3rd round pick. I was not sold on trading out of the 1st round, but I was impressed with the three 2nd rounders I got. All three have been discussed as possible 1st rounders this off season. And my two 3rd rounder I would not have been upset if I had drafted them in the 2nd. So five players in the top 100, I could get on board with that. |
Unless a few stud players fall, trading seems like our best option. There are maybe five or so players I would still choose at #22 but the gift of having additional 2nds and 3rds generally outweigh them. I'd be okay with a draft like this.
Who's your Dadi? :p |
I tried the Fanspeak board (4/5) and it was Trade-a-Palooza. The Bengals wanted me to trade down to #24, then the Seahawks wanted me to trade down to #26 then the Panthers wanted me to trade down to #30, picking up extra selections along the way which I then used to trade up with the Rams in Round 2 and trade up with the Saints in Round 3. Finally, I traded down one spot in the 3rd with Philadelphia to pocket an extra sixth. In the end, I got everything covered except a DE to replace Crick.
30: R1P30 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA 43: R2P12 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH 79: R3P16 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE 85: R3P22 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD 124: R4P26 RB PAUL PERKINS UCLA 159: R5P20 ILB BENIQUEZ BROWN MISSISSIPPI STATE 166: R5P27 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA 188: R6P13 WR BRALON ADDISON OREGON 195: R6P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA 225: R7P4 S JORDAN LUCAS PENN STATE TRADE PARTNER: CINCINNATI BENGALS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 1 PICK: 24 ROUND: 3 PICK: 24 TRADE PARTNER: SEATTLE SEAHAWKS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 24 RECEIVED: ROUND: 1 PICK: 26 ROUND: 4 PICK: 26 ROUND: 7 PICK: 4 TRADE PARTNER: CAROLINA PANTHERS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 26 RECEIVED: ROUND: 1 PICK: 30 ROUND: 3 PICK: 30 TRADE PARTNER: LA RAMS SENT: ROUND: 2 PICK: 21 ROUND: 3 PICK: 30 RECEIVED: ROUND: 2 PICK: 12 TRADE PARTNER: NEW ORLEANS SAINTS SENT: ROUND: 3 PICK: 24 ROUND: 4 PICK: 21 RECEIVED: ROUND: 3 PICK: 15 TRADE PARTNER: PHILADELPHIA EAGLES SENT: ROUND: 3 PICK: 15 RECEIVED: ROUND: 3 PICK: 16 ROUND: 6 PICK: 13 |
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52: R2P21 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH 60: R2P29 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD 61: R2P30 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS 85: R3P22 C NICK MARTIN NOTRE DAME 91: R3P28 DE JASON FANAIKA UTAH 119: R4P21 WR KOLBY LISTENBEE TCU 159: R5P20 S KJ DILLON WEST VIRGINIA 166: R5P27 CB BRIEAN BODDY-CALHOUN MINNESOTA 195: R6P20 OLB DADI LHOMME NICOLAS VIRGINIA TECH 196: R6P21 TE HENRY KRIEGER COBLE IOWA |
Rob Miller Database
39: R2P8 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
74: R3P11 OT JASON SPRIGGS INDIANA 79: R3P16 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BYU 85: R3P22 DT JAVON MARGRAVE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE 91: R3P28 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE 108: R4P10 S VONN BELL OHIO STATE 119: R4P21 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD 148: R5P9 RG GRAHAM GLASGOW MICHIGAN 159: R5P20 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA 166: R5P27 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH STATE 195: R6P20 QB CODY KESSLER USC 196: R6P21 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA 204: R6P29 RB TRE MADDEN USC 243: R7P22 CB TAVON YOUNG TEMPLE TRADES TRADE PARTNER: PHILADELPHIA EAGLES SENT: ROUND: 2 PICK: 21 RECEIVED: ROUND: 3 PICK: 14 ROUND: 3 PICK: 16 TRADE PARTNER: NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS SENT: ROUND: 3 PICK: 14 RECEIVED: ROUND: 3 PICK: 28 ROUND: 6 PICK: 21 ROUND: 6 PICK: 29 ROUND: 7 PICK: 22 TRADE PARTNER: TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 2 PICK: 8 ROUND: 3 PICK: 11 ROUND: 4 PICK: 10 ROUND: 5 PICK: 9 I traded out of the first round and still got my guy Ryan Kelly! I was surprised to see Spriggs still sitting there at #74. He is going to take time to develop, but he could potentially become a starting LT in the NFL, so I felt there was value here with his athleticism. Bronson Kaufusi is slowly becoming one of my favorite players in this draft. He is older due to his Mission, but I like what I see and if he and Nassib are unavailable, I don't know who to get to fill in for Crick that I will be happy about. Javon Hargrave is a guy who I consistently draft. I selected 2 TEs and am pleased to do so when it's Vannett and Hooper. Von Bell is a guy I've seen projected as a 2nd rounder and I have a hard time buying that. However, if available at #108....I've decided to add him to My Guys. I got Malcolm Mitchell again. Feel really good about adding Kelly, Spriggs, and Glasgow to the OL group. Nick Vigil is going to be a good/solid NFL ILB and I'm preparing for the day when Cushing is no longer a Texan. Keyarris Garrett always shows up on my draft classes. Kevin Hogan came off the board @ #185 and with so many picks from trading down, I decided to get a game manager who lacks size, but makes up for it with intelligence and accuracy. Maybe I watched too many USC games, but I like this kid as a solid back-up who is much cheaper than Hoyer. I wanted a RB and Tre Madden was the guy with size/speed (6'0" 220lbs/7.09-Cone and 4.27-Shuttle) and still on the board (again, I watched some USC games). Tavon Young is only 5' 9 1/8" 183lbs, but I think he could play the slot. He has very good quickness (6.80-Cone and 3.93-Shuttle. |
DraftTek
Wow! This was my hardest MOCK Draft to date. I constantly looked at my board and tried to determine who I should take because I had players ranked closely and wondered who might fall to the next round or if I might trade down and still be able to make selections of MY Guys.
31: R1P31 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN ST 57: R2P26 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BYU 63: R2P32 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD 85: R3P22 NT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA 119: R4P21 TE TYLER HIGBEE W KENTUCKY 125: R4P27 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME 159: R5P20 S T.J. GREEN CLEMSON 163: R5P24 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA 166: R5P27 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE 195: R6P20 OLB DADI NICOLAS VIRGINIA TECH TRADES TRADE PARTNER: DENVER BRONCOS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 1 PICK: 31 ROUND: 2 PICK: 32 TRADE PARTNER: GREEN BAY PACKERS SENT: ROUND: 2 PICK: 21 RECEIVED: ROUND: 2 PICK: 26 ROUND: 4 PICK: 27 ROUND: 5 PICK: 24 I wanted extra picks so I took a leap of faith that I would get a good player and was pleased to have Conklin sitting there for me. Then I struggled to determine who I would take next, luckily I snagged Kaufusi, Garnett, and Collins with my next 3 selections. I needed a TE so moved Higbee up my board over Malcolm Mitchell and luckily was still able to get him later. When I got to pick #125 I contemplated taking Jordan Howard, but since I had Prosise ranked higher, I stuck to my board. All the good S prospects were gone except for TJ Green so I was forced to take him and hoped to get my WR, which I did with the next pick. At #166 I could have gone for another need position, but took Matt Ioannidis anyway because he was the BPA with a 3rd round grade in the 5th round. Lastly, I selected Dadi Nicolas to be a pass-rushing specialist. I highly recommend to anyone to utilize the DraftTek database. It was definitely challenging and close to what I believe will be an actual draft class grade. |
DraftTek again....
26: R1P26 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
58: R2P27 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA 85: R3P22 NT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA 90: R3P27 OT JOE HAEG NORTH DAKOTA ST 119: R4P21 S SEAN DAVIS MARYLAND 120: R4P22 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH 123: R4P25 TE TYLER HIGBEE W KENTUCKY 159: R5P20 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME 166: R5P27 OLB JAMES COWSER SOUTHERN UTAH 195: R6P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA 229: R7P8 QB CODY KESSLER USC TRADES TRADE PARTNER: SEATTLE SEAHAWKS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 1 PICK: 26 ROUND: 3 PICK: 27 TRADE PARTNER: PITTSBURGH STEELERS SENT: ROUND: 2 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 2 PICK: 27 ROUND: 4 PICK: 25 ROUND: 7 PICK: 8 TRADE PARTNER: WASHINGTON REDSKINS SENT: ROUND: 2 PICK: 21 RECEIVED: ROUND: 2 PICK: 22 ROUND: 4 PICK: 22 Had the 21st and 22nd picks in the 2nd round and I regret trading both of them for extra picks. Kaufusi went with the 24th pick in the 2nd. Otherwise, pretty happy with my haul. No RG is a bummer. Maybe I get Karras as a UDFA. Would really like to see my Combo of FS/SS that I got in the 4th round. |
39: R2P8 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
52: R2P21 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BYU 74: R3P11 OT JASON SPRIGGS INDIANA 92: R3P29 DT JAVON MARGRAVE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE 99: R4P1 RB DERRICK HENRY ALABAMA 104: R4P6 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE 148: R5P9 OLB KYLER FACKRELL UTAH STATE 166: R5P27 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH STATE 223: R7P2 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TRADES TRADE PARTNER: CLEVELAND BROWNS SENT: FUTURE ROUND 5 PICK RECEIVED: ROUND: 7 PICK: 2 TRADE PARTNER: CLEVELAND BROWNS SENT: ROUND: 4 PICK: 21 ROUND: 5 PICK: 20 ROUND: 6 PICK: 20 RECEIVED: ROUND: 4 PICK: 1 TRADE PARTNER: BALTIMORE RAVENS SENT: ROUND: 4 PICK: 30 ROUND: 5 PICK: 28 ROUND: 6 PICK: 20 RECEIVED: ROUND: 4 PICK: 6 TRADE PARTNER: ARIZONA CARDINALS SENT: ROUND: 3 PICK: 14 RECEIVED: ROUND: 3 PICK: 29 ROUND: 4 PICK: 30 ROUND: 5 PICK: 28 TRADE PARTNER: TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 2 PICK: 8 ROUND: 3 PICK: 11 ROUND: 4 PICK: 10 ROUND: 5 PICK: 9 TRADE PARTNER: PHILADELPHIA EAGLES SENT: ROUND: 3 PICK: 22 ROUND: 4 PICK: 10 RECEIVED: ROUND: 3 PICK: 14 Traded up for Derrick Henry and Nick Vannett. Then got back into the 7th round for Keyarris since I hadn't gotten a WR. I'd be just fine with this draft and feel like my board is starting to solidify. |
51: R2P20 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
52: R2P21 DE CARL NASSIB PENN STATE 80: R3P17 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD 99: R4P1 DT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA 118: R4P20 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH 119: R4P2 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA 141: R5P2 G GRAHAM GLASGOW MICHIGAN 157: R5P18 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME 159: R5P20 TE TYLER HIGBEE W KENTUCKY 195: R6P20 DE JAMES COWSER SOUTHERN UTAH 223: R7P2 QB CODY KESSLER USC TRADES TRADE PARTNER: NEW YORK JETS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 2 PICK: 20 ROUND: 3 PICK: 20 ROUND: 4 PICK: 20 ROUND: 5 PICK: 18 TRADE PARTNER: BUFFALO BILLS SENT: ROUND: 3 PICK: 22 ROUND: 5 PICK: 27 RECEIVED: ROUND: 3 PICK: 17 - Traded UP for Josh Garnett TRADE PARTNER: CLEVELAND BROWNS SENT: ROUND: 3 PICK: 20 RECEIVED: ROUND: 4 PICK: 1 ROUND: 5 PICK: 2 ROUND: 7 PICK: 2 |
Using the Draftek board and only one trade down, I was able to draft a board I'd be thrilled to have although several of these I expect to be selected earlier than where I have them. Realistic? Jared Goff wasn't taken til the second round. That's how realistic this was. Still, we never know how these things unfold.
24: R1P24 OT TAYLOR DECKER OHIO ST 52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA 85: R3P22 DT CHRIS JONES MISSISSIPPI ST 87: R3P24 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD 119: R4P21 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH 159: R5P20 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME 166: R5P27 ILB JARED NORRIS UTAH 195: R6P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA TRADE PARTNER: CINCINNATI BENGALS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 1 PICK: 24 ROUND: 3 PICK: 24 Decker can back up for a year but, eventually, replace Duane Brown. Kelly will anchor the center position for the next 10 years. Jones is a DT who is flexible enough to be a 3-4 DE. Hooper is the second-best TE according to most boards. Killebrew is a strong safety who hits like a LB. Prosise is not my ideal back but he only has to fit behind Miller and Blue. Norris a good ILB and Garrett a value addition as others here have pointed out. Only eight picks feels rather limiting after getting all these trade-down drafts but I like what this group brings to table. I have my doubts Kelly reaches #52 and I can see all the others being drafted higher than they are here but not outrageously so. |
1: R2P17 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
2: R2P21 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD 3: R3P19 DT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA 4: R4P13 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BRIGHAM YOUNG 5: R4P18 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE 6: R4P21 G GRAHAM GLASGOW MICHIGAN 7: R5P12 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA 8: R5P16 S TYVIS POWELL OHIO STATE 9: R5P20 ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ STANFORD 10: R5P27 DE JAMES COWSER SOUTHERN UTAH 11: R5P30 QB KEVIN HOGAN STANFORD 12: R6P20 RB TRE MADDEN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 13: R6P27 OLB VICTOR OCHI STONY BROOK TRADES TRADE PARTNER: INDIANAPOLIS COLTS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 2 PICK: 17 ROUND: 3 PICK: 19 ROUND: 4 PICK: 18 ROUND: 5 PICK: 16 TRADE PARTNER: DETROIT LIONS SENT: ROUND: 3 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 4 PICK: 13 ROUND: 5 PICK: 12 ROUND: 5 PICK: 30 ROUND: 6 PICK: 27 As a Colts fan I hope Indy selects Ryan Kelly, but I hope that they don't trade their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th round picks to do so. I also hope that they would select Jack Conklin at #18 and not Cody Whitehair. But that's another discussion. |
Fanspeak Trader Roy
30: R1P30 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
57: R2P26 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA 85: R3P22 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD 99: R4P1 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BRIGHAM YOUNG 119: R4P21 DT JAVON MARGRAVE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE 122: R4P24 OLB KAMALEI CORREA BOISE STATE 124: R4P26 OT JOE HAEG NORTH DAKOTA STATE 129: R4P31 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME 159: R5P20 TE JERELL ADAMS SOUTH CAROLINA 161: R5P22 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA 163: R5P24 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS 166: R5P27 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA 168: R5P29 QB KEVIN HOGAN STANFORD 195: R6P20 OLB DADI LHOMME NICOLAS VIRGINIA TECH 223: R7P2 FB DAN VITALE NORTHWESTERN 225: R7P4 QB CODY KESSLER SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA TRADES TRADE PARTNER: CAROLINA PANTHERS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 24 RECEIVED: ROUND: 1 PICK: 30 ROUND: 3 PICK: 30 ROUND: 4 PICK: 31 ROUND: 5 PICK: 29 TRADE PARTNER: GREEN BAY PACKERS SENT: ROUND: 2 PICK: 25 RECEIVED: ROUND: 2 PICK: 26 ROUND: 5 PICK: 24 TRADE PARTNER: SEATTLE SEAHAWKS SENT: ROUND: 2 PICK: 21 RECEIVED: ROUND: 2 PICK: 25 ROUND: 4 PICK: 26 ROUND: 7 PICK: 4 TRADE PARTNER: CINCINNATI BENGALS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 1 PICK: 24 ROUND: 4 PICK: 24 ROUND: 5 PICK: 22 TRADE PARTNER: CLEVELAND BROWNS SENT: ROUND: 3 PICK: 30 RECEIVED: ROUND: 4 PICK: 1 ROUND: 7 PICK: 2 I attempted to see how many trade downs I could do and feel comfortable about doing it. This is pretty much my max and believe it or not, I did decline a few trade scenarios. I kind of cheated seeing the "BPA" list on the side of the screen so I knew that I could attempt to take a guy later that I have ranked highest. I.E. I drafted Sterling Shepard and Josh Garnett because they were getting close on the list and I was able to wait on my personal BPA at the time Kaufusi. I did the same when I selected Jerrell Adams over Malcolm Mitchell. If I had been smart, I might have attempted to trade back up for players like Maliek Collins (#79) and Nick Vannett (#94). Correa was my BPA at #122. I took Haeg to complete my O-Line of Kelly, Garnett, and Haeg. I love Promise as my 3rd down back and because I had so many picks I took a flyer on Jonathan Williams. I always seem to take Keyarris and Hogan was my backup QB selection. Having extra picks I selected a pass-rush specialist in Dadi Nicolas. I have a H-Back in Dan Vitale. Then just to have a QB on the practice squad I grabbed Kessler. |
Fanspeak 4/12 board
I didn't get any good trade-down opportunities in the first and second but took one in the third that netted two fourths and a sixth. Therefore, the draft is full of role players and not sexy: 22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE 52: R2P21 C NICK MARTIN NOTRE DAME 104: R4P6 TE TYLER HIGBEE WESTERN KENTUCKY 119: R4P21 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE 130: R4P32 WR RASHARD HIGGINS COLORADO STATE 159: R5P20 ILB BENIQUEZ BROWN MISSISSIPPI STATE 166: R5P27 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA 182: R6P7 RB KENYAN DRAKE ALABAMA 195: R6P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA TRADE PARTNER: BALTIMORE RAVENS SENT: ROUND: 3 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 4 PICK: 6 ROUND: 4 PICK: 32 ROUND: 6 PICK: 7 |
After the big trade and a new 4/19 NFL.com big board to play with, I took a small trade down and got a decent, not great, draft:
27: R1P27 DT JONATHAN BULLARD FLORIDA 52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA 85: R3P22 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH 88: R3P25 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD 119: R4P21 G LANDON TURNER NORTH CAROLINA 159: R5P20 CB JONATHAN JONES AUBURN 166: R5P27 ILB JOSHUA PERRY OHIO ST. 195: R6P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA TRADE PARTNER: GREEN BAY PACKERS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 1 PICK: 27 ROUND: 3 PICK: 25 |
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52: R2P21 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA 85: R3P22 DT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA 119: R4P21 FS SEAN DAVIS MARYLAND 159: R5P20 OLB CHARLES TAPPER OKLAHOMA 166: R5P27 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA 195: R6P20 CB MAURICE CANADY VIRGINIA I was unable to trade down for "Value" and came away with these picks. Conklin gives me flexibility with the OL. Shepard and Mitchell are nice additions to the WRs. Collins gives me push up the middle. Davis is a big hitter who can cover and I really was surprised to see him available in the 4th. Tapper is a project at OLB, but I like his measurables. Canady was was simply the BPA. Bummed I couldn't come away with at least one TE and I would need to trade down and get an extra pick to find one for the roster. |
4/12 CBS board:
A bit strange. With the big trade, I sense the OTs may drop a little bit which might allow Conklin or Decker to fall to us. The question will be whether now is the time to upgrade the OT position and prepare for Duane Brown to be next spring's big cap casualty.With some of the other options (Ragland, Elliott, Lynch, Reed), I'm becoming bigger on taking the good LTs while you can. I traded down in the second for a lower 2nd and a 3rd then traded the lower 2nd for a 3rd and a 5th. I missed out on some of the guys I wanted but still had a decent draft, not a dazzler. 22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE 71: R3P8 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA 85: R3P22 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD 93: R3P30 C MAX TUERK SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 119: R4P21 RB PAUL PERKINS UCLA 149: R5P10 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE 159: R5P20 S SEAN DAVIS MARYLAND 166: R5P27 ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ STANFORD 195: R6P20 DT ANTWAUN WOODS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA TRADE PARTNER: CAROLINA PANTHERS SENT: ROUND: 2 PICK: 21 RECEIVED: ROUND: 2 PICK: 31 ROUND: 3 PICK: 30 TRADE PARTNER: NEW YORK GIANTS SENT: ROUND: 2 PICK: 31 RECEIVED: ROUND: 3 PICK: 8 ROUND: 5 PICK: 10 |
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You can never have too many good cover corners and you can never have too many good OTs.
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37: R2p6 c ryan kelly alabama
58: R2p27 wr sterling shepard oklahoma 68: R3p5 g joshua garnett stanford 85: R3p22 dt maliek collins nebraska 105: R4p7 te austin hooper stanford 119: R4p21 de bronson kaufusi brigham young 123: R4p25 te jerell adams s. Carolina 159: R5p20 ot joe haeg n. Dakota st. 166: R5p27 ilb nick vigil utah st. 195: R6p20 rb jonathan williams arkansas trades trade partner: San francisco 49ers sent: Round: 1 pick: 22 received: Round: 2 pick: 6 round: 3 pick: 5 round: 4 pick: 7 trade partner: Pittsburgh steelers sent: Round: 2 pick: 21 received: Round: 2 pick: 27 round: 4 pick: 25 |
Roy, I could be happy with this except I don't see a need for two TEs in this draft. Select a decent RB at 4/25 like a Kenyan Drake or Paul Perkins who can be your third-down option. Then you can use that 6th rounder on a CB or S to add depth there.
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I would have taken Tyvus Powell, except I figured Jerell Adams would be more impactful on the roster. The Patriots looked good with Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez on the field together. I also felt like I need at least one of them to pan out and I double my chances in case one of them is a bust.
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I think CJ is salvageable so he can be paired with Hooper or Higbee or whomever. Hey, we do so many of these mocks that we don't explain some of our thinking. In general, I just take one player per position based on the severity of need and the scarcity of good options. Sometimes, what you want just isn't there and it changes the equation.
In general, my draft plan falls this way: 1) Best LT or DE/DT that could fit our scheme. 2) Ryan Kelly or Nick Martin for center. 3) One of a few top guards, particularly if the centers aren't there. 4) A TE that creates mismatches due to height or speed. 5) Increasing depth at RB and/or WR. 6) A strong safety that tackles well. 7) Better depth at ILB. 8) A second D-lineman. But the exact order is fluid based on which positions are disappearing. Sometimes I pick a player in the 3rd because he's the one good guy at that position then take a guy in the 4th I really think is a better player but there were alternative options if he fell off the board. All I know for sure is that the Texans will prioritize entirely differently than I would. |
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