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NBT 08-10-2011 12:40 PM

Thanks to Arky & PK for getting out there in that 100 degree heat to let us know some things. Stay hydrated guys. We really appreciate your efforts.

If Brooks Reed is really 6-2, 263, I don't see how he could look "small"?

nunusguy 08-10-2011 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NBT (Post 25779)
Thanks to Arky & PK for getting out there in that 100 degree heat to let us know some things. Stay hydrated guys. We really appreciate your efforts.

If Brooks Reed is really 6-2, 263, I don't see how he could look "small"?

I gather you are referring to my description of Reed, and I probably could have used a better adjective than "small". Perhaps I should have said he was relatively "short" when compared to somebody like Connar Barwin who's overall length seems to make him better suited to play the 3-4 OLB position ?

NBT 08-10-2011 05:02 PM

Oh OK, now I see where you were coming from. I imagine most people would look "small" with all those behemoths out there.

painekiller 08-11-2011 11:11 AM

Yesterday was not an easy day to report on. They did a large portion of the practice on the south side of the field, thus my position near the 20 on the north side bleachers was not a good seat for that part of practice.

If you saw the chron.com report of practice yesterday you got most of my observations.

I will add a couple of notes I remember, The running backs on the field yesterday, Ward, Slaton and Chris Ogbonnaya, all looked sharp. Slaton is showing the burst he had as a rookie, and has had some big runs in camp. Ogbonnaya is showing speed and quickness I do not remember from his days at Texas. Tate is still on the sideline and he is losing ground. He is in desperate need of reps, and Slaton has been able to secure his spot as at he number 3 back. Not saying that Tate will be cut or is a bust, just saying he is falling further behind.

Holiday had a huge punt return that highlighted his speed, he hit the seam and he was gone no one could get near him, he is going to have to do that in the games a few times to make this team.

The UDFA WRs that the scouts secured are all pushing for that #5 WR spot. I am glad that I am not having to make this decision. Jean, Maehl and Toliver are all making cases for making this team. I have Jean slightly ahead of Toliver on the outside, and Maehl is a slot guy that is an upgrade over Anderson right now. So keeping all three will be tough.

Right now my favorite UDFA defender is Bryan Braman. He is at worse a practice squad guy. He is old for a rookie, 25, but he is showing a huge motor and great quickness at the OLB. He had another big play today, a sack.

I have to say, I am not seeing Mario flash in camp in the team drills. Could it be why he is getting called out by AJ?

Sorry Keith, but no big report on Harris. That does not means he has done bad, but the plays I watched him on, he had solid coverage and no one challenged him with a throw. So he did not have any big plays, just solid plays on a consistent basis. I guess that is a report.

Keo is not getting any return work with the ST which is surprising me. They are working Quin on punts, go figure.

Our high priced free agent DBs appear to worth every penny, and I agree with all the hype in the paper, The opening day starters at CB will be Joseph and Allen. I don't see that Jackson is consistent enough to get on the field as a starter yet. And I am not calling Jackson a bust, just not the 2nd best CB we got right now. Jackson is looking better than last year, but not as good as Allen right now. And in the NFL you never have to many CBs.

Oh and Watts...........

Arky 08-11-2011 04:14 PM

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Taking advantage

Running back Chris Ogbonnaya is getting a lot of chances to carry the ball even though he went to camp fifth on the depth chart.

Arian Foster and Ben Tate have been out with hamstring injuries. Steve Slaton suffered a hamstring injury, too, during the morning practice. Ogbonnaya and Derrick Ward should get a lot of action in practice and in Sunday's preseason opener against the New York Jets.

Stripping the ball

Glover Quin was the team's best cornerback after his first two seasons, but he was moved to strong safety during the offseason. Quin has good size (6-0, 203), speed (4.55), instincts and hitting ability for safety.

In the morning practice, Matt Schaub threw a beautiful pass to the sideline for Andre Johnson. Right when Johnson was about to catch the ball and pull it to his chest, Quin showed a great closing burst, reached out and stripped the ball from Johnson, which doesn't happen very often.

Keep an eye on

A couple of defensive backs who continue to make plays and earn praise from their coaches are cornerback Sherrick McManis and safety Quintin Demps.

McManis (6-1, 193) and Demps (5-11, 206) made a lot of plays during the morning practice. McManis enters his second season. Demps is a four-year veteran who grew up in San Antonio and played at UTEP. The coaches will be watching them closely Monday night against the Jets.

Looking good

It’s not as if any extra evidence was necessary, but TE Owen Daniels and WR Andre Johnson are and have been exceptional… Rookie free agent WR Jeff Maehl continues to impress. Wide receivers coach Larry Kirksey was reserved Thursday in his praise of Maehl, mostly because the former Oregon star hasn’t shown what he can do yet in live action, but Kirksey said there were things the wide receiver possessed that can’t be taught. “He’s not a fast-twitch athlete, but at the same time, you find him making plays out here on the field,” Kirksey said. “He has a long ways to catch up with the speed of the game, but at the same time, he has playing speed… He’s someone who gets open and plays smart.”

Have had better days

Matt Leinart wasn’t as sharp as he was to open training camp, and the timing is curious because he’s slated to play plenty in Monday’s preseason opener against the New York Jets.
More at the chron

painekiller 08-12-2011 10:49 AM

Biggest news today was Casey appears to have hurt his ankle. It looked like his ankle rolled on a catch late in practice, and he was very slow in getting up. He laid flat for a at least 30 seconds before getting up. He was helped off the field, but was walking with his weight on the ankle. He was limping. Not sure how bad it was.

News flash, Maehl dropped a pass today. And TE Hill actually caught one.

I want to point out Allen was working with the 1st team, but so was Jackson. I did not see Joseph in team drills. Not sure if I just missed him or what. Jackson had a real nice day. He stripped AJ on a few occasions. Like I said yesterday, he has improved. It's amazing what a pro coach can do with raw talent.

As for Harris, I watched him on a large number of plays. In team drill late in practice they played it like a game, the #2 offense in a 3 wide set got the ball on the 20 and they had to work against the #2 defense in a nickle package. Harris was on Maehl who has had a wonderful camp. Harris covered Maehl and keep him from being involved in the game. I think Maehl was targeted on one play and Harris broke it up. Brice was working with the #1's nickle.

Mario was back out there today. I'm still not seeing him making plays. Barwin has looked like a beast.

A note on Casey, he was working only with the 2nd team today. And Vickers was blown up again today, second time this week I've seen him blown up. Not just beaten, but blown up.

Leinart is a good solid backup, and Yates is still looking good.

Ward and Ogbonnaya both looked great again. So the OL is looking solid in the run game.

NBT 08-12-2011 12:48 PM

Channel 13 was saying that Joseph tweaked his hammy so was held out of morning workouts. A lot of hammies a result of the lockout and lack of OTA's IMO.

WMH 08-12-2011 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NBT (Post 25788)
Channel 13 was saying that Joseph tweaked his hammy so was held out of morning workouts. A lot of hammies a result of the lockout and lack of OTA's IMO.

CBS Rapid Reports
Aug. 12, 2011 12:10 p.m. - by Brandon Williams - Joseph misses practice with groin issues
CB Johnathan Joseph missed Friday morning's practice with a mild groin pull, but is expected back for Saturday's sessions. The team did get WR Lestar Jean back after he missed Thursday while recovering from being inadvertently kneed in the head during Wednesday morning's drills. Texans RapidReports

painekiller 08-12-2011 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by WMH (Post 25789)
CBS Rapid Reports
Aug. 12, 2011 12:10 p.m. - by Brandon Williams - Joseph misses practice with groin issues
CB Johnathan Joseph missed Friday morning's practice with a mild groin pull, but is expected back for Saturday's sessions. The team did get WR Lestar Jean back after he missed Thursday while recovering from being inadvertently kneed in the head during Wednesday morning's drills. Texans RapidReports

This is the report I heard also, groin not hammy.

edo783 08-12-2011 09:59 PM

PFT is reporting that he has taken a shot in the groin to loosen it up. That sounds bad on sooo many levels.

nunusguy 08-13-2011 08:12 AM

I had a couple groin pulls in school (both track and football), and they can keep you out for awhile. I dunno, which is worse, a groin or hamstring injury
and which usually requires the most time for recovery ?

JW295 08-13-2011 08:43 AM

Texans Training Camp: Who’s in, Who’s Out
 
Hey Texan fans, if you want an up-to-date report on what's going on with the Texans, click here as NFL Scout Jayson Braddock shares his observations on both players and coaches as they prepare for their Monday Night game against the Jets (audio included).

WMH 08-13-2011 10:57 AM

Interesting......

@espn_afcsouth: Antonio Smith on Sirius Radio right now talking about playing some nose in nickel situations. #Texans

chuck 08-13-2011 11:29 AM

To everyone providing first-hand camp reports - great work, thanks, I appreciate all of it.

NBT 08-13-2011 01:48 PM

Sorry, it was groin, not hammy. :o I had both at one time or another playing for ye "Ol almamater. The groin was the harder of the two to get over.

Arky 08-13-2011 03:24 PM

Good stuff. Thanks.

Arky 08-14-2011 11:34 AM

Video: ESPN's Paul Kuharsky - Camping with the Texans

WMH 08-18-2011 10:52 AM

Looks like Tate's back on the field:
@HoustonTexans
Houston Texans Coach Kubiak on if RB Ben Tate will play vs. Saints: "Yeah, I hope so...He felt good (today)...He needs to play a little bit."

Foster came back yesterday, Ward will likely be sidelined this week due to concussion rules.

2 up, 1 down, not a real bad trade off.

I fully expect to see the Obi-whatever show in the 2nd half vs. the Saints. Give Foster Q1, Tate Q2, then let the kid run again.

Nconroe 08-18-2011 11:38 AM

It appears Caldwell and Studdard out a while on OL for high ankle sprains, so , guess we see more of the young guys there.

Wonder if Jonathan Josephs hammy will be good enough to play against the Saints?

Hoping they put some emphasis on kick returns and return coverage this week.

cadams 08-18-2011 11:39 AM

on forster, i would be fine if he didn't play this weekend again. don't want to risk aggravating that hammy


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