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Arky 10-04-2009 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMatrix31 (Post 14473)
No joke, have we EVER gotten a safety? I seriously can't remember.

I don't remember but it's been a while if we have....

HPF Bob 10-04-2009 03:15 PM

Coming out of halftime, the tv guys are propping Kubiak and Baby Shan for their offensive wizardry and what happens? The offense has a pair of three-and-outs and the points come from defense and special teams.

Arky 10-04-2009 03:19 PM

Raiders bring the kickoff back to their 22.

1st down pass goes inc.

2nd down pass is good for 12 and the 1st down.

McFadden for 5.

Zgonina gets either a sack or no gain on 2nd down.

3rd down pass goes inc. so Raiders to punt.

HPF Bob 10-04-2009 03:20 PM

Jacoby giveth and Jacoby taketh away.

Arky 10-04-2009 03:21 PM

Oh goodness, JJ muffs the punt but Texans recover at their own 12 yard line.

Arky 10-04-2009 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 14477)
Coming out of halftime, the tv guys are propping Kubiak and Baby Shan for their offensive wizardry and what happens? The offense has a pair of three-and-outs and the points come from defense and special teams.

The offense just goes hot and cold most of the time - it's weird... The Texan defense is usually cold all the time... :p

Arky 10-04-2009 03:27 PM

Moats for 5. 5:59 left in the 3rd qtr.

Moats for 2.

On 3rd and 3, short pass to DA good for the 1st down. Ball at the Texan 29.

Moats for 5.

Schaub scrambles for 1. 3rd and 4.

3rd down pass goes inc. so Texans to punt.

Arky 10-04-2009 03:30 PM

Raiders ball at their 25.

Bush for 4.

2nd down pass goes inc. 3rd and 6 coming up.

Pressure from Cushing causes pass to go inc.

Raiders to punt.

JJ fields the punt (without incident) and goes down at the Texan 16.

Arky 10-04-2009 03:33 PM

Slaton for 1.

Schaub sacked. -5 yards.

On 3rd and 14, Slaton gets about 4.

Texans to punt.

Roughing on Turk is a 5 yard penalty but Texans decline. Raiders ball at their own 47.

1 sec left in the 3rd qtr.

nunusguy 10-04-2009 03:38 PM

End of third Q, up by 3 TDs. I dunno, so when do they start thinking about getting Schaub out of there ?

Arky 10-04-2009 03:40 PM

Vargas no gain. End of 3rd quarter.

Vargas for 2. Nice tackle by Quin.

3rd down pass goes for 13 and the 1st down. Nice hit by Pollard on the tackle.

1st down pass is broken up. 2nd and 10.

Timeout Raiders.

Arky 10-04-2009 03:45 PM

Vargas for 3. Ball at the Texan 35.

On 3rd and 7, pass goes inc.

Raiders to go for it on 4th down..... Pass goes inc. in the endzone.

Texans take over at their own 35.

Arky 10-04-2009 03:50 PM

Slaton for no gain.

2nd down pass to AJ goes inc. 3rd and 10 coming up.

Schaub can't find anyone open and scrambles for 3. Texans to punt.

Higgins fields the punt and runs sideways/backwards and goes out of bounds at the Raider 22.

11:02 left in the 4th quarter.

Arky 10-04-2009 03:53 PM

1st down pass is almost INT'ed by Barber.

McFadden stopped by Cushing for 1 yard gain. 3rd and 9 coming up.

Mario causes the fumble on Russell! Barwin on the recovery! Texans ball at the Raider 20!

Fonz the Boss 10-04-2009 03:56 PM

LoL @ Kris Brown

Arky 10-04-2009 03:57 PM

Slaton for 2.

Moats for about 4. 3rd and 4 coming up.

Moats is tackled for loss of 1.

Texans to go for the FG.

33 yard FG is no good. :(

Score remains:

Texans 29, Raiders 6

8:06 left in the game.

Arky 10-04-2009 04:00 PM

McFadden takes the dump pass for about 5. Ball at the Raider 28.

2nd down pass is dropped. 3rd and 5.

Low pass on 3rd down so Raiders to punt.

JJ fair catches at the Texan 19.

Arky 10-04-2009 04:03 PM

Slaton for 4.

Slaton for 3. 3rd and 3 coming up.

Slaton for 2 and short of the 1st down. Texans to punt.

Arky 10-04-2009 04:08 PM

Raiders fair catch at their 25 but flag on the play. Raiders have 12 men on the field so the Texans get a 1st down.

Moats for about 5. Texans ball at their own 38.

Moats for no gain. 3rd and 5 coming up.

Moats for 7 - gets the 1st down.

Moats is smothered in the backfield for about a 6 yard loss.

2 minute warning. Texans facing 2nd and 16.

Texan offense has been awfully stale in this 2nd half but 29-6 on the scoreboard is a nice.....

Arky 10-04-2009 04:14 PM

Moats for 3. 3rd and 13.

Moats for 4 so Texans to punt on 4th down.

Raiders muff the punt and Barber is Johnny-on-the-spot to recover.

Texans kneeling it out.

Final Score:

Texans 29, Raiders 6

Yay! ;) Nice job, defense!

Roy P 10-04-2009 04:50 PM

What a difference a week makes. I don't know if it was because we were playing the lowly Raiders, but the team looked different today.

I want to give some props to several players this week:
Bernard Pollard played like an NFL SS which was nice.
Brian Cushing is very close to being a dirty player, but the bad attitude and nasty demeanor were needed on the D.
Glover Quinn should be the starting CB over Bennett.
Zach Diles played very well, so he's off my $hit list this week.
Antonio Smith was getting penetration and was attacking the offense along with Amobi Okoye and Mario Williams.
Shaun Cody was very effective at doing the dirty work today.
Ryans was his usual steady self.

There were other individual moments in the game like Connor Barwin picking up a fumble, but the above players worked hard during the whole game.

The defense won this game for us today. They attacked, they blitzed, they tackled. Now we will have to see if they can be an effective unit against a passing team like the Cards next week.

dadmg 10-04-2009 04:55 PM

Signs that your team's running game hasn't been up to expectations:

Your fans are coveting the guy who came into the weekend "leading" the league with an NFL-worst 1.8 YPC.

NBT 10-04-2009 04:57 PM

Game ball to the defense on this one.

Big Texas 10-04-2009 06:10 PM

Bernard Pollard (BP) This guy may be one of only a few good FA pick ups. However I am not ready to call him the savior of the D just yet, though. Albeit his hard hitting was a benefit this week. We will see if his cover skills are as good with the Cards coming in next week.

But enough of that negative talk right now. Go Texans.

Great game Ryan Moats. Was Chris Brown injured?

I am liking Cushing more and more each week. Him and Ryans are beginning to make a formidable tandem.

Bennett comes in and gives up a long 3rd down. This guy is trash. That play was zone coverage. So he is bad in zone coverage, bad one on one, and a bad tackler...

Is Jacoby good for one good play and one terrible play every game?

Finally, good tackling by Quin.

Overall great game.

nunusguy 10-04-2009 06:11 PM

"Brian Cushing is very close to being a dirty player" is probably a remark that's as much of a compliment as anything since a HC on another team reportedly called the Texans a "finesese team" which is anything but a compliment. But I can think of atleast 2 if not 3 plays where Cushing (and the Texans) were lucky they didn't flag him for unnecessary roughness or some other kind of personal foul. I dunno how he got away without being flagged when he hit
the Raiders QB Russell with his forearm to the head, the way they codle QBs ? And how 'bout that safety he got on Fargas when he basically tripped him while throwing his azz down in the EZ ? Hey, they didn't compare him to Bill Romanowski for nuttin ?

Keith 10-04-2009 06:23 PM

http://www.inthebullseye.com/archive/2009/20091004.html

Nice day for the front 7 finally.

With the Cards next week, the timing is nice. Now we need the secondary to step up. Wasn't Reeves supposed to be back by now...?

barrett 10-04-2009 07:24 PM

I was dead wrong on the Cushing pick. He has been great for a rookie so far. He is not necessarily a game changer so much as he is an attitude changer. I love how much he enjoys contact.

Arky 10-05-2009 07:21 AM

Dang, not quite sure why I kept calling Justin Fargas as Justin "Vargas" in this thread but my bad... Doh! :o

Mike 10-05-2009 08:56 AM

[QUOTE=TheMatrix31;14473]No joke, have we EVER gotten a safety? I seriously can't remember.[/QUOTE


19-10 ring a bell? Gary Walker against the Cowboys. 9/2002.

Mike 10-05-2009 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy P (Post 14496)
What a difference a week makes. I don't know if it was because we were playing the lowly Raiders, but the team looked different today.

I want to give some props to several players this week:
Bernard Pollard played like an NFL SS which was nice.
Brian Cushing is very close to being a dirty player, but the bad attitude and nasty demeanor were needed on the D.
Glover Quinn should be the starting CB over Bennett.
Zach Diles played very well, so he's off my $hit list this week.
Antonio Smith was getting penetration and was attacking the offense along with Amobi Okoye and Mario Williams.
Shaun Cody was very effective at doing the dirty work today.
Ryans was his usual steady self.

There were other individual moments in the game like Connor Barwin picking up a fumble, but the above players worked hard during the whole game.

The defense won this game for us today. They attacked, they blitzed, they tackled. Now we will have to see if they can be an effective unit against a passing team like the Cards next week.

Roy, really good post. I agree 100% and would like to add a few comments.

Frank Bush was on the radio last night. Said they simplified things for Antonio this week. He was much, much more active. I would keep the same plan with him going forward.

Best game from Omobi that I can recall in awhile. Maybe they simplified things for him as well. They seemed fast yesterday that they reacted well. Not much room for the Raiders to run.

Next week, Reeves, Dunta and Quinn should be the three top CB's next week.

Pollard and Quinn both played well. They tackled and wrapped up. That is a start.

Cushing plays fast and physical. He is playing well and is impressing me.

Let's not forget Mario. Sack, FF and was disruptive in the pass and against the run.

I was worried that the Raiders could run it against us. Kudos to the defense for stepping it up.

painekiller 10-05-2009 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrett (Post 14506)
I was dead wrong on the Cushing pick. He has been great for a rookie so far. He is not necessarily a game changer so much as he is an attitude changer. I love how much he enjoys contact.

I am now willing to shut up about the Cushing pick. He seems to be pushing Demeco and Diles to play at higher level. With more intensity, and they seemed to attack the backfield yesterday much more than in the past.

But remember this was Oakland, who is a train wreak, maybe the worse team in the AFC. So next weeks game against the Cards is huge game. Believe it or not I had it as a win before the season started. And the Cards are playing down like most post Super Bowl runners up. So this is a can win game.

As for the announcers for the Oakland game, I learned that Keven Walters played for Kubiak in Denver. Wow!

painekiller 10-05-2009 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith (Post 14502)
http://www.inthebullseye.com/archive/2009/20091004.html

Nice day for the front 7 finally.

With the Cards next week, the timing is nice. Now we need the secondary to step up. Wasn't Reeves supposed to be back by now...?

Did anyone else see the stats for team defense minuse 4 plays? Our guys are top 20 if they do not let 4 plays go for over 60 yds.

As for Reeves he hurt in hand in practice this last week.

barrett 10-05-2009 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by painekiller (Post 14520)
I am now willing to shut up about the Cushing pick. He seems to be pushing Demeco and Diles to play at higher level. With more intensity, and they seemed to attack the backfield yesterday much more than in the past.

But remember this was Oakland, who is a train wreak, maybe the worse team in the AFC. So next weeks game against the Cards is huge game. Believe it or not I had it as a win before the season started. And the Cards are playing down like most post Super Bowl runners up. So this is a can win game.

As for the announcers for the Oakland game, I learned that Keven Walters played for Kubiak in Denver. Wow!

I agree with this.

But my change of heart on the Cushing pick is not about how well we played yesterday.

My issue with the pick was that a SLB in the 4-3 does not make enough big plays or have enough impact to justify the pick or the money that goes with it. I still feel this way. But what Cushing does do is change the attitude of the whole defense. When he was running around spiking guys heads off the turf yesterday, the rest of the Defense played far more aggressive. So while he may not be a game changer, he changes the demeanor of a team that has always been soft and non-physical.

Plus there was no Safety worth drafting in our slot. My bigger issue this offseason was that none of the other 7 picks or Free Agent dollars addressed the safety position at all. This means that Smith/Kubiak actually thought we were good enough to win at that position. Unbelievable.

Imagine if we had signed Brian Dawkins. He agreed to go to a team with far worse prospects than ours so I think we could have gotten him if we paid up (and he got half what Antonio Smith did). If you put him at safety I bet we have half as many big plays allowed and twice as many turnovers thus far (and a 3-1 record at least). But instead we trotted out a group of CFL guys and waited to look for help until 2 weeks after the season had started.

Nconroe 10-05-2009 03:41 PM

I think the whole defense, coaches and players, deserves lots of credit for playing the most dominant game I think I've seen them play. Perhaps have to say Oakland really played poorly as well, but Texans also played very well yesterday. I thought Pollaard, Quinn, and Cushings were the most visible in making a difference although almost all the guys had an excellent day on defense.

Special teams did well, including JJ's run for 95 yards.

And offense did all it needed, good thing SS got going for a few plays, and then apparently they practiced not running very well the second half.

NBT 10-06-2009 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith (Post 14502)
http://www.inthebullseye.com/archive/2009/20091004.html

Nice day for the front 7 finally.

With the Cards next week, the timing is nice. Now we need the secondary to step up. Wasn't Reeves supposed to be back by now...?

Yes, he was. He fractured a pinkie finger in practice! Wouldn't ya know it. Hope he can suck it up against the Cardinals. We will really need him against Boldin and Fitz.

NBT 10-06-2009 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrett (Post 14506)
I was dead wrong on the Cushing pick. He has been great for a rookie so far. He is not necessarily a game changer so much as he is an attitude changer. I love how much he enjoys contact.

Call it what you will, he is a tackling machine, and a much needed "attitude changer" for our defense.

NBT 10-06-2009 02:59 PM

PK, what is a "train wreak"? I've heard of a train wreck before, but not a wreak.

painekiller 10-06-2009 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NBT (Post 14546)
PK, what is a "train wreak"? I've heard of a train wreck before, but not a wreak.

leave my spelling alone, and I will leave your fact checking alone. :D

NBT 10-06-2009 06:52 PM

Okay, Pal, just pulling your leg a little.


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