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chuck 01-26-2021 12:41 AM

Sounds good. Let us know if there's anything about Watson's future in any of the upcoming Q drops.

bikerack 01-27-2021 08:41 AM

My friend has been out of pocket for a while...took some time off to really think about whether he is going to stay with the team. For now, he's waiting like we all are to see what happens.

One new nugget...JE was not involved in the original GM interviews. He caught wind that the original choice (the assumption is that it was Kahn) was going to fire him and that is when everything went nuts. JE started to work whatever magic he has over Cal and yada, yada, yada...Caserio was hired. He still doesn't have the full story, but the people who do were shocked at the last-minute change.

This is an educated guess on my friend's part but he thinks DW4 was told about the original GM choice (or at least it was discussed) and then next thing you know, Caserio was hired. He feels lied to and the feeling within the building is that there is less than a 30% chance the fence gets mended...

Keith 01-27-2021 08:09 PM

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@McClain_on_NFL
McClain: I expect David Culley to be hired over Leslie Frazier as Texans coach
https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/s...07431498788866

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"I think he's honest," (Andy) Reid said. "I think he gives you the same picture every day. He's upbeat and he loves life. He's an energy giver and he's optimistic.

"If things aren't going well, he's going to find out the problem and he's going to fix it. He's not going to hang his head about it. He's brutally honest with the players saying, 'Hey you're doing a great job' or 'You're screwing up. Here's what you have to do.'

"He really teaches them."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...ey/ar-BB1d9by1

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@AaronWilson_NFL
David Culley, traveling to Houston on Tuesday for his second job interview with Texans, coached Deshaun Watson in the Pro Bowl last year as part of Ravens' coaching staff. Watson and Culley built a really good connection that week, according to sources
https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/...43248167583744

painekiller 01-27-2021 09:11 PM

Its official, its Culley.

Keith 01-27-2021 09:26 PM

Some quick resume diving on Culley... obv a first-time HC at 65 years old is a bit of an eyebrow raiser, but he has been involved on coaching some rather impressive passing offenses for almost 3 decades now. Between retaining OC Tim Kelly and picking a guy Watson reportedly liked during Pro Bowl week a year ago, we can try to hope DW4 is on board with this.

Steelers WR Coach (under Cowher) - Lost AFC Conference Title in '97
Eagles WR Coach (Reid) - Lost Super Bowl '04, Lost NFC Conference 4x
Chiefs AHC (Reid) - playoffs 3 of 4 years
Bills QB Coach (McDermott) - playoffs 1 of 2 years
Ravens AHC (Harbaugh) - playoffs both years

McCown and Lovie Smith reportedly joining the staff, too.

Warren 01-27-2021 09:41 PM

Old interview from when he joined the Chiefs: https://www.chiefs.com/video/coach-s...ulley-11256873

Reminds me of Herm Edwards.

Keith 01-27-2021 09:44 PM

Culley has worked with (among others obv): Kordell Stewart, Donovan McNabb, Lamar Jackson. Would like to see Deshaun Watson added to that list.

chuck 01-27-2021 09:49 PM

The only way this makes any sense is if Deshaun said If you hire this guy I’ll settle down.

Otherwise it’s up there with trading your best players for nothing or giving away the farm for a guy you don’t even have extended, in other words, typical Nexans.

I realize that very few if any credible candidates wanted this job, but come on.

Arky 01-28-2021 12:44 AM

Well, I guess if Watson stays, it's worth it.

Remains to be seen whether the new coach can rise above Ed Biles or Bill Peterson type production....

Having a coach that the players want to play for is so important, no?

Still, it is fun to speculate if Watson wants out, the Texans could get a gold mine for him - if they don't screw it up....

Keith 01-28-2021 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by chuck (Post 50418)
I realize that very few if any credible candidates wanted this job, but come on.

Rumor is that Bieniemy wanted some amount of say in the personnel, and that was pretty much game over for Caserio.

Culley sounds a lot like the "culture fit" type that Easterby and Cal want. So... that's not really encouraging.

I like the narrative portion of Lovie Smith becoming the DC. I'm just not so sure I'm as sold on the X's & O's portion of it. Smith's HC career has just spiraled out of control since departing the Bears with rough stops in Tampa then at the college level at Illinois. Not sure how his philosophy has changed, but he was a big cover-2 guy (a "Tampa 2" really, dropping MLB into coverage) back in the day and probably still is. I'm a bit rusty on this D, but I'm not sure how that scheme at all works in the NFL these days. And I definitely question whether the Texans have anywhere near the personnel to run it.

painekiller 01-28-2021 09:08 AM

I'm done. I've deleted my Texans app. I am moving on. I think I'm going to be a Chiefs fan. I hate the Cowboys, and IMO the Saints are at the end of their run. So the Chiefs are the choice. They are also a front runner and that will be fun for a while.

See you guys later

chuck 01-28-2021 10:18 AM

These idiots chose a fking youth pastor over their best players. I mean, that is literally what happened. I'm used to total incompetence from Houston professional sports, but this is a new wrinkle.

bikerack 01-28-2021 11:50 AM

This is the stop-gap "Dusty Baker" type of hire he predicted back on page 3 of this thread.

The thinking/prediction around the watercooler is that in 2 years, McCown will step in to be HC.

chuck 01-28-2021 11:54 AM

Did they get to the point where they offered the job to Brady but were turned down or did they eventually cool on him for whatever reason?

Do you know if any candidate explicitly turned the job down? Surely there were guys who declined an interview.

bikerack 01-28-2021 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck (Post 50424)
Did they get to the point where they offered the job to Brady but were turned down or did they eventually cool on him for whatever reason?

Do you know if any candidate explicitly turned the job down? Surely there were guys who declined an interview.

My understanding is that the closest they came to offering a job to anyone was asking EB what it would take. He wanted truckloads of cash and partial roster control. That was a no-go...

As has been said here and elsewhere, I think this was their back-up plan all along and guys they have been interviewing have actually been for staff positions on the team (i.e. McCown and maybe Caldwell).

HPF Bob 01-28-2021 03:36 PM

I wasn't going to say it earlier because I thought Culley's hire might have had backchannel approval from Watson but, since it appears it wasn't, explain how the Oilers publicly interviewed two African-Americans and one white for the head coaching job and then picked the (very old) white guy with no HC experience thinking Watson would be down with that?

I don't care if the white coach was Vince Lombardi, blacks will perceive this as a slap in the face - more "white privilege". How tone deaf can they be? This isn't about Culley or his qualifications. He just walked into a hornet's nest. But, man, this has Bud Adams written all over it.

bikerack 01-28-2021 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 50428)
I wasn't going to say it earlier because I thought Culley's hire might have had backchannel approval from Watson but, since it appears it wasn't, explain how the Oilers publicly interviewed two African-Americans and one white for the head coaching job and then picked the (very old) white guy with no HC experience thinking Watson would be down with that?

I don't care if the white coach was Vince Lombardi, blacks will perceive this as a slap in the face - more "white privilege". How tone deaf can they be? This isn't about Culley or his qualifications. He just walked into a hornet's nest. But, man, this has Bud Adams written all over it.

In case you haven't seen, Culley is being called the first black HC hired during this cycle...

https://www.nj.com/sports/2021/01/ex...ead-coach.html

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Cully is the first Black head coach to be hired in this current coaching cycle. Due to the new rule passed by the NFL owners this season, the Ravens will receive a compensatory third-round pick in this year’s draft and the 2022 draft because the Texans hired Culley.

chuck 01-28-2021 03:54 PM

So I guess Culley can use the White restroom in Buford Holler if he's a mind to.

barrett 01-28-2021 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 50428)
I wasn't going to say it earlier because I thought Culley's hire might have had backchannel approval from Watson but, since it appears it wasn't, explain how the Oilers publicly interviewed two African-Americans and one white for the head coaching job and then picked the (very old) white guy with no HC experience thinking Watson would be down with that?

I don't care if the white coach was Vince Lombardi, blacks will perceive this as a slap in the face - more "white privilege". How tone deaf can they be? This isn't about Culley or his qualifications. He just walked into a hornet's nest. But, man, this has Bud Adams written all over it.

What??????

HPF Bob 01-28-2021 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bikerack (Post 50429)
In case you haven't seen, Culley is being called the first black HC hired during this cycle...

I shouldn't have jumped to conclusions based on a couple of media photos, but that's the palest-looking black since Rachel Dolezal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Dolezal

bikerack 01-29-2021 09:30 AM

Sounds like Cal is skipping the Culley presser today

chuck 01-29-2021 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bikerack (Post 50433)
Sounds like Cal is skipping the Culley presser today

Tent revival out Rosenberg way.

bikerack 02-08-2021 08:09 AM

My friend has survived the purge so far but he says more pink slips are coming...I think he isn't going to quit on his own accord for right now but wouldn't mind being fired (severance)...

Players are understandably upset that the equipment manager and his staff were let go.

There are 2 people happy at NRG right now and Caserio isn't one of them. Sounds like he is regretting his decision...

Watson has communicated (not himself directly) his willingness to sit out the entire year.

chuck 02-08-2021 10:14 AM

I'd heard that Caserio is regretting his decision to take the job and wondered if it was true. I mean, he had to know what sort of a shitshow he was getting into, right? And if it all stems from Cal's ceding who knows how much authority to Easterby, he knows Easterby well and should have known what sort of chaos an idiot like that can create when left unimpeded and/or he should, as GM, have the authority to correct any egregious power imbalance.

But I guess not.

At some point, when it's appropriate, I would be interested to know in what sort of position your friend serves (served). I have no interest in figuring out who he is or any of that, I've always just wondered what his role is and where his point of interaction with the team is.

I wonder if Deshaun is ever going to go public with his point of view. Despite the organization's blistering incompetence being on full display, there is a considerable amount of pro-organization, anti-Deshaun sentiment out there. That's to be expected in a place like Houston, of course, but if this drags on, and it appears that it will, I think he needs some PR.

barrett 02-09-2021 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by chuck (Post 50443)
I'd heard that Caserio is regretting his decision to take the job and wondered if it was true. I mean, he had to know what sort of a shitshow he was getting into, right? And if it all stems from Cal's ceding who knows how much authority to Easterby, he knows Easterby well and should have known what sort of chaos an idiot like that can create when left unimpeded and/or he should, as GM, have the authority to correct any egregious power imbalance.

But I guess not.

At some point, when it's appropriate, I would be interested to know in what sort of position your friend serves (served). I have no interest in figuring out who he is or any of that, I've always just wondered what his role is and where his point of interaction with the team is.

I wonder if Deshaun is ever going to go public with his point of view. Despite the organization's blistering incompetence being on full display, there is a considerable amount of pro-organization, anti-Deshaun sentiment out there. That's to be expected in a place like Houston, of course, but if this drags on, and it appears that it will, I think he needs some PR.

I haven't heard any anti-Deshaun sentiment. The guy had to tell fans to not protest on his behalf in the middle of a quarantine. He is universally beloved in this city and I don't know one person who is holding this against him. Who in Houston are you talking to that is anti-Deshaun?

chuck 02-09-2021 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by barrett (Post 50444)
I haven't heard any anti-Deshaun sentiment. The guy had to tell fans to not protest on his behalf in the middle of a quarantine. He is universally beloved in this city and I don't know one person who is holding this against him. Who in Houston are you talking to that is anti-Deshaun?

Go to texanstalk and you'll get all the pro-org idiocy you want.

See also: Twitter

There is plenty - plenty - of He done signed a contract an he gown honor by gum sentiment out there. And Go head awn an let him sit out, this ain't the NBA.

I'll never really understand why necks who don't even have a full spool of bob wire to their names will side with billionaire owners over millionaire players. And before anyone suggests the obvious, they do it with white players, too. It's a real puzzler.

bikerack 02-10-2021 11:23 AM

I'm not anti-Deshaun but mentally, I have moved on. I wish him nothing but the best and hope he wins a SB wherever he goes.

Now, if he stays in HOU, I'll be pleasantly surprised and continue to root for him.

bikerack 02-10-2021 11:24 AM

I'm sure everyone has seen that Jamey Rootes resigned effective immediately. He tried to resign weeks ago but was talked into waiting.

barrett 02-10-2021 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by chuck (Post 50445)
Go to texanstalk and you'll get all the pro-org idiocy you want.

See also: Twitter

There is plenty - plenty - of He done signed a contract an he gown honor by gum sentiment out there. And Go head awn an let him sit out, this ain't the NBA.

I'll never really understand why necks who don't even have a full spool of bob wire to their names will side with billionaire owners over millionaire players. And before anyone suggests the obvious, they do it with white players, too. It's a real puzzler.

I saw a watson trade thread on there with 3000 replies and in the first 100 or so all I saw was either don't trade him or amateur draftniks drooling over picks. I have no idea what's on Twitter, but I assume nothing good since it's the worst of humanity.

But I think the huge majority of Houston is firmly in Watson's camp. I would guess the Texans permanently lose a whole lot of fans if they trade him. I don't think he has any need of a PR man whether he stays or goes. I fully agree with you it's dumb that people call players greedy when a player and owner argue over money. I think it's easier for most people to be jealous of players than owners. Most people have met great athletes (even if it was just in HS). I have a feeling if most people met the super rich they would quickly switch sides.


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