3/9 - Fanspeak post-FA draft
 

Now that free agency has shaken up the roster, I tried Fanspeak (3/8 board) for the first time without the need for a QB or RB early.

I honestly saw no reason not to trade down so I took a deal with Baltimore for their 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounders for our first, leaving Houston with no 1st or 7th round picks but two in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th plus one in the sixth:

36: R2P5 OT GERMAIN IFEDI TEXAS A&M
52: R2P21 S VONN BELL OHIO STATE
70: R3P7 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
85: R3P22 DT CHRIS JONES MISSISSIPPI STATE
105: R4P6 C MAX TUERK SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
120: R4P21 RB JORDAN HOWARD INDIANA
159: R5P20 ILB JOSH FORREST KENTUCKY
166: R5P27 WR BRALON ADDISON OREGON
198: R6P20 QB JAKE COKER ALABAMA

TRADE PARTNER:
BALTIMORE RAVENS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 5
ROUND: 3 PICK: 7
ROUND: 4 PICK: 6

Ifedi was the last of the early-round OTs available so I grabbed him while I could. Bell is the sort of safety that should stick for awhile. Henry was still around in the early third so i took him but I would have taken Hooper or Vannett if he wasn't there. Jones is a solid run-stuffer for the middle. Tuerk gives us a backup behind our new center and Howard a solid RB to add behind Miller. Forrest is a good complement in the middle while Addison is ultra-quick and can be used for kick returns. There's about 5 late-round QBs one could bring to camp and Coker is one of them. Say this about Alabama QBs, they aren't flashy but they find ways to win and so does Coker.

Now that we have Osweiler in the fold, look who falls to us at #22? (Fanspeak, Walter Football 3/11 board). If he's there, you gotta take him.

Not many good trade offers, but I had one.

22: R1P22 QB CARSON WENTZ NORTH DAKOTA STATE
52: R2P21 DT AUSTIN JOHNSON PENN STATE
85: R3P22 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
147: R5P8 DE CHARLES TAPPER OKLAHOMA
159: R5P20 TE TYLER HIGBEE WESTERN KENTUCKY
166: R5P27 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
189: R6P11 ILB JOSH FORREST KENTUCKY
198: R6P20 C MIKE MATTHEWS TEXAS A&M

TRADE PARTNER:
MIAMI DOLPHINS
SENT:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 5 PICK: 8
ROUND: 6 PICK: 11

Fanspeak w/ NFL Mock.com draft board 3/14
 

Here's an interesting one. I couldn't trade up or down in the first round. Paxton Lynch was there and I was tempted to take him but I don't want to have Osweiler start his Houston career with another QB controversy.

I later traded out of the third round because I was offered a 4th, two 5ths and a 6th.

22: R1P22 ILB REGGIE RAGLAND ALABAMA
52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
115: R4P16 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
120: R4P21 OLB ERIC STRIKER OKLAHOMA
144: R5P4 DT ANTWAUN WOODS USC
155: R5P15 WR KENNY LAWLER CALIFORNIA
160: R5P20 S DEON BUSH MIAMI (FL)
167: R5P27 QB CARDALE JONES OHIO STATE
195: R6P19 CB KEVON SEYMOUR USC
196: R6P20 K ROBERT AGUAYO FLORIDA ST

I added two impact LBs for the time we want to move on from Cushing and Clowney. Kelly has a chance to start as a rookie. Vannett is one of those flex-type TEs who can make use in various formations.

Cardale Jones??? Are you crazy?? Well, hear me out. He's a very raw talent but he dominated briefly and I would try to groom him as a "slash" player who could play RB, WR and throw passes from exotic formations while being the emergency QB. The dude is a load to bring down and I think he could be stashed on the practice squad while he learns.

Notice how almost all these guys are players on winning programs expected to win most of the time. I think they'd help fill out our roster in ways that one showcase player would not do.

TRADE PARTNER:
OAKLAND RAIDERS
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 16
ROUND: 5 PICK: 4
ROUND: 5 PICK: 15
ROUND: 6 PICK: 19


Comments?

I would pick Cardale Jones in the fifth round (or later) without a second thought.

This I think is under-appreciated. I would much rather take my chances with a Louis Nix than some goofy Casserly project from SE Indiana Tech. The guys from the big schools on balance get better coaching and practice and play against a much higher level of competition.

Of course watch Wentz and Lynch come out and perform far better than Goff and Cook.

Everybody wants another Ben Roethlisberger (Bowling Green) or Joe Flacco (Delaware). Where did Favre play college ball? Oh, yeah - Southern Mississippi.

Not poking a hole in your theory but I don't think I can automatically discredit a QB from Memphis or North Dakota St. simply because they aren't among the elite conferences. Only that the dice role is a little bit more against you if you are reaching for small-college players.

The rapist went to Miami of Ohio. I'm certainly not suggesting writing off small school guys, just saying that I prefer guys from big schools if all else is more or less equal. Better coaching, better competition, better facilities, better nutrition, more acclimation to being on a big stage, etc.

Flacco has basically played a good month of football in his 8 year NFL career. It was a well timed month, but even a QB starved franchise like ours shouldn't want another Joe Flacco.

23: R1p23 wr corey coleman baylor
60: R2p29 te hunter henry arkansas
85: R3p22 rb alex collins arkansas
120: R4p21 c max tuerk southern california
122: R4p23 dt matt ioannidis temple
128: R4p29 te tyler higbee western kentucky
153: R5p13 s jayron kearse clemson
160: R5p20 qb cardale jones ohio state
196: R6p20 g denver kirkland arkansas
197: R6p21 rb aaron green tcu


trade partner: New orleans saints sent:
Round: 7 pick: 22
round: 5 pick: 27
texans received:
Round: 5 pick: 13

trade partner: New england patriots sent:
Round: 2 pick: 21
texans received:
Round: 2 pick: 29
round: 4 pick: 29
round: 6 pick: 21
round: 7 pick: 22

trade partner: Minnesota vikings sent:
Round: 1 pick: 22
texans received:
Round: 1 pick: 23
round: 4 pick: 23

I'd be happy with this. IMO, there's no "got to" player out there at #22 unless we just get lucky so a trade down for multiple picks in rounds 2-5 is the way to maximize this draft.

No trades, CBS list

22: R1P22 WR COREY COLEMAN BAYLOR
52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
85: R3P22 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
120: R4P21 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH STATE
160: R5P20 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
167: R5P27 TE TEMARRICK HEMINGWAY SOUTH CAROLINA STATE
196: R6P20 DT ADAM GOTSIS GEORGIA TECH


I am thinking one of the two DT goes to NT and one to 3-4 DE.

I like Coleman, but I could also have gone with Fuller. I go back and forth on taking two TE, and if I were to do that I would have dropped ILB Vigil for TE Tyler Higbee.

Lastly I keep wondering if I am the only person that Ioannidis?

3/18 Walter Football w/Trades
 

I'm thinking Houston's best position is to trade down and get more second-day talent.

At this point, if I can get a 3-for-1 to trade down that includes a high 2nd, 3rd and 4th, that's better to me. Walter Football's boards are a bit whacked from the others so good talent is available late. Combining both of these led to a draft that is probably too good to be true. Note, I traded down one spot in the second for a fifth then used that pick as bait to move up on Day 3 when Alex Collins was still available.

35: R2P4 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
53: R2P22 QB CHRISTIAN HACKENBERG PENN STATE
66: R3P3 WR COREY COLEMAN BAYLOR
85: R3P22 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
100: R4P1 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
120: R4P21 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
160: R5P20 ILB JOSH FORREST KENTUCKY
167: R5P27 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA
196: R6P20 S JORDAN LUCAS PENN STATE

TRADE PARTNER:
SAN DIEGO CHARGERS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 4
ROUND: 3 PICK: 3
ROUND: 4 PICK: 4

TRADE PARTNER:
WASHINGTON REDSKINS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 22
ROUND: 5 PICK: 19

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS
SENT:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 4
ROUND: 5 PICK: 19

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 1

I actually had my choice of OT Conklin or DE Bullard at 2/4 and went with the OT with an eye on dumping Brown or Newton in the near future. The QBs disappeared fast so I got Hackenberg when he was the last of the six left. Still, I added other guys I see mentioned in first-round mocks like Coleman and Kelly and still had room in the 4th for Collins and Vannett so the offense got a major upgrade. Unfortunately, I didn't help the D-line like I intended but we can hopefully re-sign Crick and the coaches are high on Covington from last year's draft who came on late in the season.

Bob, I agree with your thoughts on getting multiple picks, but even with multiple picks I would not use one on Hack. I am not against taking a flyer on a QB, just not that QB and not with your 2nd pick.

Also as you stated, that list is wack. Coleman in the 3rd?

Lastly I'm not sure I drop out of the 1st completely, and I'm also not a Conklin fan, he feels like a RT only guy to me. I could be wrong on that one. I would have gone with Bultard over Conk. But thats Chocolate and Vanilla. We each have our preferences.

Same list as Bob.

22: R1P22 WR WILLIAM FULLER NOTRE DAME
66: R3P3 C NICK MARTIN NOTRE DAME
85: R3P22 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
103: R4P4 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
120: R4P21 QB CARDALE JONES OHIO STATE
160: R5P20 DT ADAM GOTSIS GEORGIA TECH
167: R5P27 OT COLE TONER HARVARD
180: R6P4 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
196: R6P20 S JORDAN LUCAS PENN STATE

TRADE PARTNER:
SAN DIEGO CHARGERS SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 3
ROUND: 4 PICK: 4
ROUND: 6 PICK: 4

Honestly, I think the Broncos, if they can't land Kaepernick or Fitzpatrick, almost have to land a competent QB in the first round to back up Sanchez. If so, they would be wrong to stand pat at #31 and hope Lynch falls to them. I could easily see the Broncos trading up with us and giving us #31 and #63. But I'd still fall into the upper second for a 2nd, 3rd and 4th if given a chance. I think we have so many holes to fill that owning 5 picks in the first two days is better than having three picks with one at #22. But that's just me.

Trade down, trade down, trade down...
And i think i over traded down.

35: R2P4 WR WILL FULLER NOTRE DAME
59: R2P28 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
85: R3P22 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
93: R3P30 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
94: R3P31 OLB SU'A CRAVENS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
103: R4P4 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
120: R4P21 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
127: R4P28 DT HASSAN RIDGEWAY TEXAS
129: R4P30 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME
160: R5P20 OT WILLIE BEAVERS WESTERN MICHIGAN
163: R5P23 S ELIJAH SHUMATE NOTRE DAME
166: R5P26 QB CARDALE JONES OHIO STATE
167: R5P27 WR JORDAN PAYTON UCLA
168: R5P28 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON
180: R6P4 C ISAAC SEUMALO OREGON STATE
196: R6P20 RB KENYAN DRAKE ALABAMA
199: R6P23 WR CAYLEB JONES ARIZONA

TRADE PARTNER:
ARIZONA CARDINALS GET:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

Texans RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 29
ROUND: 3 PICK: 30
ROUND: 4 PICK: 30
ROUND: 5 PICK: 28

TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS GET:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 29

Texans RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 30
ROUND: 3 PICK: 31

TRADE PARTNER:
SAN DIEGO CHARGERS GET:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 30

Texans RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 4
ROUND: 4 PICK: 4
ROUND: 6 PICK: 4
ROUND: 6 PICK: 23

TRADE PARTNER:
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS GET:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

Texans RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 28
ROUND: 4 PICK: 28
ROUND: 5 PICK: 23
ROUND: 5 PICK: 26

To many guys to keep them all.

Actually not a bad draft but I would have done more about the front 7 in the later rounds. That's where I shop for ILBs and safeties. They normally can stick as STers if they don't start.

I traded down again with the CBS board although I could have had Ezie Elliott, Lynch or an OT if I had stayed. I didn't get the great trade-down offers I wanted but I added a couple of 4ths that picked up some sliding talent.

37: R2P6 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
52: R2P21 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
85: R3P22 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
100: R4P1 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
106: R4P7 QB DAK PRESCOTT MISSISSIPPI STATE
120: R4P21 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA
160: R5P20 ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ STANFORD
167: R5P27 G DENVER KIRKLAND ARKANSAS
196: R6P20 DT ANTWAUN WOODS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA


TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 1
ROUND: 4 PICK: 1

TRADE PARTNER:
SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 1

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 6
ROUND: 4 PICK: 7

CBS list

I just got faster, much faster in the slot and on the outside.

22: R1P22 WR COREY COLEMAN BAYLOR
52: R2P21 WR WILL FULLER NOTRE DAME
104: R4P5 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
120: R4P21 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
147: R5P7 OT WILLIE BEAVERS WESTERN MICHIGAN
160: R5P20 S KJ DILLON WEST VIRGINIA
167: R5P27 S DEANDRE HOUSTON-CARSON WILLIAM & MARY
196: R6P20 DT ADAM GOTSIS GEORGIA TECH
202: R6P26 G JOE DAHL WASHINGTON STATE


Only one trade down: Gave up an OC for an OT, OG and a RB
TRADE PARTNER:
JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22 (C NICK MARTIN )

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 5 (RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS)
ROUND: 5 PICK: 7 (OT WILLIE BEAVERS WESTERN MICHIGAN)
ROUND: 6 PICK: 26 (G JOE DAHL WASHINGTON STATE)

The newest big board was Bleacher Report (which is garbage) but it is always fun working with a board you have no familiarity with. Somehow, I never got a trade offer to my liking but a lot of guys fell that were below where I think they'll actually be picked:

22: R1P22 ILB REGGIE RAGLAND ALABAMA
52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
85: R3P22 QB CHRISTIAN HACKENBERG PENN STATE
120: R4P21 RB DERRICK HENRY ALABAMA
160: R5P20 DE CARL NASSIB PENN STATE
167: R5P27 OLB ERIC STRIKER OKLAHOMA
196: R6P20 CB JONATHAN JONES AUBURN

I guess I could call this my "Roll Tide" draft. No receivers in this draft but you have to grab the value that's out there.

CBS list again. Lots of trade down and a future 2nd given away. To many picks to be functional.

34: R2P3 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
60: R2P29 DT CHRIS JONES MISSISSIPPI STATE
68: R3P5 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
85: R3P22 WR BRAXTON MILLER OHIO STATE
91: R3P28 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
102: R4P3 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON
120: R4P21 CB JONATHAN JONES AUBURN
124: R4P25 WR KOLBY LISTENBEE TCU
160: R5P20 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
167: R5P27 G ISAAC SEUMALO OREGON STATE
190: R6P14 RB AARON GREEN TCU
196: R6P20 TE HENRY KRIEGER COBLE IOWA
197: R6P21 OLB IAN SEAU NEVADA
205: R6P29 G JOE DAHL WASHINGTON STATE
230: R7P8 K KA'IMI FAIRBAIRN UCLA
247: R7P25 QB CODY KESSLER SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA


TRADE PARTNER:
SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS SENT:
FUTURE ROUND 2 PICK
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 5

TRADE PARTNER:
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 27
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 29
ROUND: 6 PICK: 21
ROUND: 6 PICK: 29

TRADE PARTNER:
DALLAS COWBOYS SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 28
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 3
ROUND: 4 PICK: 3
ROUND: 6 PICK: 14

TRADE PARTNER:
PITTSBURGH STEELERS SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 27
ROUND: 4 PICK: 25
ROUND: 7 PICK: 8
ROUND: 7 PICK: 25

TRADE PARTNER:
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 28
ROUND: 3 PICK: 28

15 picks, no way you can keep them all. So way to many trade downs. What becomes obvious is that DT
s are strong early, WR are strong in the middle, and the LBs coming out of the college ranks are not geared to the NFL game (danged spread offenses).

Bleacher Report: Some new names and new priorities at the top. If you take a Conklin, he can play LT or RT, OTs then can be Brown, Conklin. Newton can move to OG with Allen, and Su'a-Filo move to OC. It's a thought. If Brown is not ready at the start of the season they have coverage.

22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
52: R2P21 OLB SU'A CRAVENS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
85: R3P22 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
120: R4P21 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
160: R5P20 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
167: R5P27 ILB JARED NORRIS UTAH
196: R6P20 S TYVIS POWELL OHIO STATE

Walters List, seems to have some guys upside down from my list.

30: R1P30 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH
52: R2P21 WR COREY COLEMAN BAYLOR
62: R2P31 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
85: R3P22 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
100: R4P1 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
114: R4P15 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON
167: R5P27 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
196: R6P20 RB AARON GREEN TCU
224: R7P2 QB VERNON ADAMS OREGON



I made some moves:

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS SENT:
FUTURE ROUND 3 PICK

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 1
ROUND: 7 PICK: 2

TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 30
ROUND: 2 PICK: 31

TRADE PARTNER:
TENNESSEE TITANS SENT:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 21
ROUND: 5 PICK: 20

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 15

The above links go to NFL.com summary of each player.

Short of trading their top pick for multiple mid-round picks, OT is a real possibility for the #22 given the uncertainty they have with Brown at LT this year and even if he's completely healthy he's getting to be a vet who's been around quite awhile now so it's time anyway to start grooming a replacement especially with us now having a really big investment at QB.

I like the links so we can look up details on each player quick and easy.

I was disappointed I couldn't trade down in the first round but I took one offer in the second for two thirds. This is the Fanspeak 3/15 board.

22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
77: R3P14 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
79: R3P16 DT CHRIS JONES MISSISSIPPI STATE
85: R3P22 QB CHRISTIAN HACKENBERG PENN STATE
120: R4P21 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH STATE
160: R5P20 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA
167: R5P27 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
196: R6P20 DE CHARLES TAPPER OKLAHOMA

TRADE PARTNER:
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 14
ROUND: 3 PICK: 16

I thought of cutting the entire page for each player but that was to cumbersome. So I added the links, glad you enjoyed it.

BTW those are Lance Zeirlien's breakdowns on the players.

By all appearances, Hackenberg will be lucky to be drafted. Considering that and the fact we signed Osweiler, I wouldn't burn a pick on Hack until very late in the draft, if at all. In fact, I think the worst thing we could do is draft a QB (certainly one fairly early) this year and have all the fickle fans calling for him at the slightest hint of a struggle from Osweiler. Might be better off going with Savage, a vet or a late RD QB for this year and let Os have his day without rookie QB crap hanging over his shoulder.

I agree totally. Hack has not shown anything in two years. He might have been better served transferring somewhere that the offense better served him and showing he was not a one year wonder, freshman year no less. As of now, OB does not have to draft a "franchise" QB early, and that will hurt Hack with the Texans.

I cannot say how many mocks I have done where a solid QB is available and I have walked right past him to a position of higher need. If you want to a flyer on a QB late in the draft, a fifth or later, then I am good with that. I love Adams from Oregon as a UDFA, to give you a camp arm.

The biggest issue I see is reps. The team is going to want to get OS as many reps as possible in OTAs and camp, and they want to hold on to Hoyer to possibly trade to a team that gets hit with an injury for some kind of value. And you have to get him reps, along with Savage. He needs reps. So how can you develop a young guy with no reps.

Also I would not be surprised if they keep Hoyer as a veteran backup. It would give Os another QB to talk to on the sideline and in the room.

I think keeping Hoyer is a good strategy. We could do far worse at backup QB and it's not like he's all that expensive. I think he'd be good for Os to have around. If they don't feel Savage has a future, then by all means draft a guy like Adams, Hogan or Driskell, etc. late in the draft. I'd rather a have Hoyer and a rookie prospect than hang onto Savage who has zero experience to help out and likely has no starting future.

Using the FanSpeak list.

22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
52: R2P21 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH
70: R3P7 C NICK MARTIN NOTRE DAME
94: R3P31 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
120: R4P21 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
130: R4P31 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
160: R5P20 WR KOLBY LISTENBEE TCU
167: R5P27 TE JERELL ADAMS SOUTH CAROLINA
183: R6P7 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
196: R6P20 WR CAYLEB JONES ARIZONA


TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 31
ROUND: 4 PICK: 31

TRADE PARTNER:
BALTIMORE RAVENS SENT:
FUTURE ROUND 2 PICK

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 7
ROUND: 6 PICK: 7

Got additional picks with a trade down and a future pick.

This is a solid list in the 2nd 3rd 4th rounds.

Got my Brown insurance, future OT in Conklin, which gives me more versatility along the line, in that same vain I took Martin, and guy that can play OG or OC.

In the 2nd and 4th I took two DTs that can play either NT or 3-4 DE. Both are solid against the run. And showed well at the Senior Bowl in one on ones.

Grabbed both RBs from Arkansas, why not keep them pushing each other, one is a scat back, choppy runner and one is more of a power back. (Maybe time for Blue to move on).

If all Cyrus Jones did on this team was return punts than he would be a steal, but he also is money covering the slot receiver.

Listenbee is a speedster on the outside. And Cayleb Jones is big bodied guy with solid hands. Also has some baggage in his distant past.

Added size and speed to the roster, added guys that can make plays, added some meanness to the OL. Not a bad draft IMO.

If they intend to keep Hoyer, then they won't draft a QB but I would rather release or trade him and use the cap savings to bring back Jared Crick.

As far as Hackenberg, I'm simply responding to the mutual admiration
O'Brien and Hackenberg have for each other and the belief he will flourish here better than anywhere else.

You don't want someone who directly competes against Ossie this year but someone who can step in if he gets injured or falters. I don't see last year's starter as being the guy for that.

I don't believe Hoyer is on the roster by the start of OTAs. But the league is so QB starved that trying to get a low draft pick for him is smart right now.

Particularly because we know what that gets us, which is not much. Or certainly not enough. Hoyer is too expensive and potentially too distracting to be the backup I think. And barrett is right, he will find a place in the league and if the Texans can squeeze a 6th or a 7th for him and get his salary off the books then that would be a triumph. The offense will go as far as BO takes it. I have no idea where that will be but I don't see any real point in having a Hoyer over a Savage at backup if a Hoyer is that much more expensive.

I can't remember a year where the mocks were so all over the place with the top five or six quarterbacks. You guys have seen all the mocks, too, and many of you have played with the various lists for your own mocks. It's amazing how one perfectly credible mock will have QB X at 2 overall and another perfectly credible mock will have him at 12 or 22 or whatever. I really thought that by now we'd start to get some clarity and consensus among the mocks but we haven't. Hell, no one even knows what Tennessee's going to do. For me it's far more enjoyable than usual.

Here's an Easter mock which includes a trade down with Carolina. This used the "With The First Pick" board. Still, a bit disappointed with what it produced.

30: R1P30 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
52: R2P21 DE DEFOREST BUCKNER OREGON
85: R3P22 DT CHRIS JONES MISSISSIPPI STATE
94: R3P31 G VADAL ALEXANDER LSU
120: R4P21 RB PAUL PERKINS UCLA
130: R4P31 TE TYLER HIGBEE WESTERN KENTUCKY
160: R5P20 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH STATE
167: R5P27 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA
169: R5P29 S JORDAN LUCAS PENN STATE
196: R6P20 QB KEVIN HOGAN STANFORD

TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 30
ROUND: 3 PICK: 31
ROUND: 4 PICK: 31
ROUND: 5 PICK: 29

22 C Ryan Kelly
52 WR Sterling Shepard
85 S Sean Davis
120 CB Cyrus Jones
160 WR Malcolm Mitchell
167 OLB Yannick Ngakoue
196 WR Keyarris Garrett

I think that the "Composite" board is most realistic. I find it useless to be able to draft Derrick Henry in the3rd round.

Every Tuesday means a new Fanspeak board and some very generous tradedowns led to a pretty sweet haul:

32: R2P1 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
41: R2P10 WR COREY COLEMAN BAYLOR
85: R3P22 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
92: R3P29 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
119: R4P21 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
128: R4P30 QB DAK PRESCOTT MISSISSIPPI STATE
159: R5P20 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH
166: R5P27 DT ANTWAUN WOODS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
167: R5P28 DE ANTHONY ZETTEL PENN STATE
195: R6P20 ILB JOSH FORREST KENTUCKY


TRADE PARTNER:
ARIZONA CARDINALS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 29
ROUND: 3 PICK: 29
ROUND: 4 PICK: 30
ROUND: 5 PICK: 28

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 29

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 1
ROUND: 4 PICK: 1

TRADE PARTNER:
CHICAGO BEARS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21
ROUND: 4 PICK: 1

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 10

Nice job, I could live with most of this. Not sure what position Zettle plays on the Texans, he appears to be a 4-3 DE only.

3/30 Optimum Scouting Board
 

Never heard of Optimum Scouting and I have to scratch my head at some of their rankings but, with a couple of trade downs, I managed a nice group:

33: R2P2 ILB REGGIE RAGLAND ALABAMA
52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
64: R3P1 S VONN BELL OHIO STATE
85: R3P22 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
113: R4P15 RB DEVONTAE BOOKER UTAH
119: R4P21 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
121: R4P23 DT JONATHAN BULLARD FLORIDA
159: R5P20 ILB JARED NORRIS UTAH
160: R5P21 QB DAK PRESCOTT MISSISSIPPI STATE
166: R5P27 WR DEMARCUS AYERS HOUSTON
195: R6P20 G VADAL ALEXANDER LSU

TRADE PARTNER:
MINNESOTA VIKINGS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 23
ROUND: 4 PICK: 23
ROUND: 5 PICK: 21

TRADE PARTNER:
TENNESSEE TITANS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 23

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 2
ROUND: 3 PICK: 1
ROUND: 4 PICK: 15

That won't happen. I wish it would but some people have Oregon's
BUCKNER as the best defensive player in the whole Draft. He's at least top 10 and sometimes top 5 in every mock I've seen.

I don't think Jonathan Bullard lasts until the 4th round either.