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Roy P 02-23-2009 10:57 PM

Man, I need to Orakpo's Cone and Shuttle times. I also want Sidbury's cone drill. Right now I'm wondering if I take Clay Mathews over Orakpo and then select Sidbury in the 2nd. I can't imagine a 2nd round OLB that can match Clay while Lawrence can perhaps be as good as Orakpo in terms of pass-rush.

Roy P 02-23-2009 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 8384)
I thought you lived by those 3-cone & shuttle times in rating the potential of OLineman for the ZBS ?

Yeah, but they have to be able to block. I like what I see from Eric Wood, for example. Good times, but ALSO good play on the field.

sinnister 02-24-2009 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Roy P (Post 8445)
Man, I need to Orakpo's Cone and Shuttle times. I also want Sidbury's cone drill. Right now I'm wondering if I take Clay Mathews over Orakpo and then select Sidbury in the 2nd. I can't imagine a 2nd round OLB that can match Clay while Lawrence can perhaps be as good as Orakpo in terms of pass-rush.

Right now, I am really like Clay Matthews as our pick.

Roy P 02-24-2009 12:25 AM

What's the over/under on James Laurinitis and a 4.81? He might last until the 3rd round. Ouch!

mussop 02-24-2009 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Roy P (Post 8457)
What's the over/under on James Laurinitis and a 4.81? He might last until the 3rd round. Ouch!

Wanna bet??? What did Demeco run I cant remember?

Roy P 02-24-2009 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mussop (Post 8458)
What did Demeco run I cant remember?

4.65, which would make him the 4th fastest LB in this draft.

painekiller 02-24-2009 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Roy P (Post 8435)
PK and I were discussing a combo of Maybin, Kruger, and Cody Brown. Now, I'm considering Matthews, Sidbury, and Gerald McGrath.


I have like Sidbuby since I saw him at the Shrine game. And like you I had him farther down the list from the guys we where talking about, I can see him as a 2nd.

Another name to watch for me is David Veikune. He is still on the late round pick up watch list.

nunusguy 02-24-2009 08:30 AM

What would we do with a Laurinitis (or a Rey-Rey) if you take the Texans reported comments that DeMecos stays in the middle as legit, unless you think he could play SAM and I think he struggle covering TEs if he's over there ?
And having a resume as a muti-year standout in the Big 10 is just not as impressive anymore as the SEC resume guys like DeMeco & Willis have.

Roy P 02-24-2009 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 8472)
What would we do with a Laurinitis (or a Rey-Rey).

I'd let somebody else draft them. :)

There are only 2 LBs in this draft who are going to be low risk, high reward.

1. Aaron Curry
2. Clay Matthews

Now, others may turn out to have fine careers and be worth a 1st or 2nd round pick. Right now, I just can't think of one.

nunusguy 02-24-2009 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Roy P (Post 8449)
I like what I see from Eric Wood, for example.

Yep. He really whipped up on Raji in the SB game.

papabear 02-24-2009 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dalemurphy (Post 8423)
EXACTLY!- I just don't like to hear that stuff from McClain because he hints that he has a source inside the team. So, I remain slightly concerned that the Texans' actually are thinking that way as well. Though I think a lot of the organization now, I've still seen enough bone-headedness to stay worried: Studdard making the squad over Brandon Frye; employing Richard Smtih for a 3rd year and every defensive decision that went along with that.

McClain also said the franchise tag was not an option for D.R. Any information that McLain gets is because the Texans WANT the information public IMO....in other words a possible smoke screen of our true intentions in the draft.

papabear 02-24-2009 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by painekiller (Post 8465)
I have like Sidbuby since I saw him at the Shrine game.

I liked what I saw there too. Although at that time I thought he would be a much later round pick than a second. Someone we could use as a situational pass rusher early on. I'm not as confident in him as a second round pick becaue for some reason I see him as a guy that will take a little time to develop as an all around player.

jppaul 02-24-2009 10:31 AM

I am starting to think about Malcolm Jenkins at safety after he dropped a 4.55, and he will probably be around after that performance.

bono 02-24-2009 11:05 AM

I like Patrick Chung but i think he might be a 2nd rounder and not slip to the 3rd

painekiller 02-24-2009 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bono (Post 8504)
I like Patrick Chung but i think he might be a 2nd rounder and not slip to the 3rd

He is a solid 2nd rounder, i have him as the #1 safety, yes above Dumas.

Roy P 02-24-2009 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jppaul (Post 8498)
I am starting to think about Malcolm Jenkins at safety after he dropped a 4.55, and he will probably be around after that performance.

I've been thinking that about Vontae Davis. Then I saw what Chris Clemons, David Bruton, CJ Spillman, and Chip Vaughn did today. Maybe I don't have to spend a 1st round pick on an impact S afterall.

papabear 02-24-2009 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jppaul (Post 8498)
I am starting to think about Malcolm Jenkins at safety after he dropped a 4.55, and he will probably be around after that performance.

I know that's the usual response when a CB has good size and is a little slower than most people like. They really are two different skill sets though, especially if your talking about a CB who has played mostly man coverage. I wonder what the success rate is on guuys who try to make that switch when they get to the NFL? I would rather do it right away then wait a few years. Most CB's are going to resist it though, unless it's a way to extend there career (or their only chance to make a roster) for one simple reason...CB's make more money than Safeties.

idymoe 02-24-2009 05:09 PM

Anyone want to talk about Stephen Hodge S TCU 5'11 5/8 234 lbs. Ran a 4.49 forty. A tweener, TCU used him at safety and will. He blitzed a lot & had 8 sacks. Was a qb in high school. Big hitter, would be good on special teams. 6th or 7th round, maybe?

nunusguy 02-24-2009 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jppaul (Post 8498)
I am starting to think about Malcolm Jenkins at safety after he dropped a 4.55, and he will probably be around after that performance.

But not at #15. We've got a bigger fish to fry with that pick than a FS.
And a CB is not worth a top 15 pick to us if he's not atleast a sub 4.5 guy as long as we continue to operate as much man-coverage with our corners
as we do now.

Roy P 02-24-2009 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by idymoe (Post 8536)
Anyone want to talk about Stephen Hodge S TCU 5'11 5/8 234 lbs. Ran a 4.49 forty. A tweener, TCU used him at safety and will. He blitzed a lot & had 8 sacks. Was a qb in high school. Big hitter, would be good on special teams. 6th or 7th round, maybe?

I really like him at the college level. At best, he's Sam Mills - a short LB. He played around the LOS in college, so I'm not sure about him in pass coverage. He's great against the run, so maybe they consider him as a WILL. He'd definitely be a project.


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