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barrett 01-05-2009 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nero THE zero (Post 6948)
You could say that about a lot of positions.

List offensive players who impact that game more than Peyton Manning, Randy Moss, or Brian Westbrook. But, drafting drafting a player that plays a certain position doesn't guarantee you will get the impact that Ed Reed or Peyton Manning provide.

While it would be nice to get an Ed Reed, you could just as easily get a Donte Whitner.

And to answer your question; Albert Haynesworth.

I don't think you can say that about a lot of positions. What other defensive position has three players who impact the game like that? Those three are easily among the top 5-7 defensive players in the NFL (Reed and Polamalu are probably the best). The only other guys in the conversation are maybe allen, harrison, Ware, and Haynesworth. And the Titans did not seem to miss Haynesworth nearly as much as a team like Indy misses Sanders.

Either way my point was that regardless of last year's NFL draft (which my statement was a reply to) there are more true game changers at Free Safties than anywhere else.

As for a FS maybe being Ed Reed and maybe Donte Whitner. Thanks for the newsflash. Every position is like this so how is it more relevant at FS. That is why I have never been locked into any position (FS included). If we can get a GREAT pass rusher, DT, or FS than pull the trigger (it should BPA among those three as far as I'm concerned, though we are younger and deeper at DT than the other two). But I don't see a CB or LB making a huge difference for us. NO CB in the NFL is a game changer at this point (otherwise the Raiders and Broncos would be able to play defense), and no 4-3 OLB is either.

nero THE zero 01-05-2009 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett (Post 6951)
I don't think you can say that about a lot of positions. What other defensive position has three players who impact the game like that? Those three are easily among the top 5-7 defensive players in the NFL (Reed and Polamalu are probably the best). The only other guys in the conversation are maybe allen, harrison, Ware, and Haynesworth. And the Titans did not seem to miss Haynesworth nearly as much as a team like Indy misses Sanders.

Either way my point was that regardless of last year's NFL draft (which my statement was a reply to) there are more true game changers at Free Safties than anywhere else.

As for a FS maybe being Ed Reed and maybe Donte Whitner. Thanks for the newsflash. Every position is like this so how is it more relevant at FS. That is why I have never been locked into any position (FS included). If we can get a GREAT pass rusher, DT, or FS than pull the trigger (it should BPA among those three as far as I'm concerned, though we are younger and deeper at DT than the other two). But I don't see a CB or LB making a huge difference for us. NO CB in the NFL is a game changer at this point (otherwise the Raiders and Broncos would be able to play defense), and no 4-3 OLB is either.

Agreed. I just hate seeing people hitch their wagons to positions instead of players. People always advocate "FS in the first round," or "we have to draft a speed rusher in the first round," which obviously is a bad idea in a number of ways. I'm not saying you did that, but to fixate on the importance of a certain position while not considering the players available at that position is futile.

barrett 01-05-2009 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nero THE zero (Post 6956)
Agreed. I just hate seeing people hitch their wagons to positions instead of players. People always advocate "FS in the first round," or "we have to draft a speed rusher in the first round," which obviously is a bad idea in a number of ways. I'm not saying you did that, but to fixate on the importance of a certain position while not considering the players available at that position is futile.

I agree completely. There a number of spots where we can get an impact player and when it comes time to draft, I hope our staff goes with a player they are in love with rather than attempts to fill a need.


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