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chuck 12-08-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WMH (Post 36904)
Since day 1. Probably seen 95 of the 100+ games played. Sometimes life just gets in the way. Sometimes......

Cool. Where are your seats? Where do you tailgate? Do you still have that first ticket? I managed to lose mine. That's really the only regret I have about my tenure as a season ticket holder other than not dropping them sooner.

Nconroe 12-08-2013 05:48 PM

Fwiw,
Been to atleast one game at Reliant every year.

First Oiler game saw at Astrodome in 1971.

Quite a few Texans open practices also.

WMH 12-08-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck (Post 36905)
Cool. Where are your seats? Where do you tailgate? Do you still have that first ticket? I managed to lose mine. That's really the only regret I have about my tenure as a season ticket holder other than not dropping them sooner.

Nose bleeds. 621. Yep, still have both first tickets, pre and reg season. They were plastic, so they've survived.... Our parking is in Orange, and our tailgating is sporadic. Getting too old to handle those Mondays.

I have zero regrets in hanging on to my tickets. Its good entertainment. Since we're high, its "only" about a grand per year.

Nconroe 12-08-2013 06:00 PM

Bleacher report has a list of their top 9 candidates
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles...kubiak/page/10

Kevin Sumlin - offense
Darrell Bennell - offense
Ken Whisenhut- offense
Pete Carmichael - offense
Luvie Smith - defense
Mike Zimmer - defense
Ray Horton - defense
David Cutcliff - offense
David Shaw - offense

WMH 12-08-2013 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nconroe (Post 36908)
Bleacher report has a list of their top 9 candidates
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles...kubiak/page/10

Kevin Sumlin - offense
Darrell Bennell - offense
Ken Whisenhut- offense
Pete Carmichael - offense
Luvie Smith - defense
Mike Zimmer - defense
Ray Horton - defense
David Cutcliff - offense
David Shaw - offense

No O'Brien, even in these early stages is surprising.

Nconroe 12-08-2013 06:17 PM

Then ESPN has a top 5 list
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2...ant-texans-job

John Gruden - offense 95-81
Luvie Smith - defense 81-63
Mike Shanahan - offense 170-134
Kevin Whisenhut - offense 45-51
Tom Cable - offense 17-27

Arky 12-08-2013 06:35 PM

I think I've seen every game on TV since the beginning. Maybe overslept a couple of times back in the early days....

Never been to the stadium, probably will never go. Today's ticket prices are just too crazy for me. Getting in and getting out of the stadium area seems like a big hassle.......

Went to plenty of Oiler games back in the day. I still got an old Oilers vs. Chargers program from the 60's ..... Lance Alworth was still with the Chargers at the time...

Warren 12-08-2013 06:40 PM

Fwiw, Sumlin has no NFL experience. O'Brien is the most intriguing to me and he did interview with the Eagles and Browns last year before Penn State sweetened his deal. I wonder if that came with a hefty buyout provision?

Here's a scenario that crossed my mind: McNair goes with a "proven winner" who has connections with the front office and whose offense is basically already in place -- Mike Shanahan. And he gives Snyder draft choice compensation to let Shanahan out of his contract, even though he may be about to be fired and even though he has had one winning season in his last six.

That headhunting firm is the same one Texas used in its athletic director search and A&M is using in its president search.

Nconroe 12-08-2013 06:47 PM

Ok, last list I found, 10 names from Chron

Luvie Smith
Wade phillips
Ken Whisenhunt
Jack DelRio
Darrell Bezell
Gus Malzahn
Bill O'Brien
Todd Bowles
Pete Carmichael
David Shaw
Greg Roman

So lots of possibilities. See what happens.

HPF Bob 12-08-2013 08:48 PM

In case anyone's forgotten, Sumlin signed a six-year extension with A&M a week or so ago. I doubt he's available.

Del Rio interviewed for the USC job and he has already coached at Jacksonville so the guy already knows what it is like to coach a crap franchise. He's not my first choice he'll be a popular name this off-season.

Arky 12-08-2013 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 36914)
In case anyone's forgotten, Sumlin signed a six-year extension with A&M a week or so ago. I doubt he's available.

Del Rio interviewed for the USC job and he has already coached at Jacksonville so the guy already knows what it is like to coach a crap franchise. He's not my first choice he'll be a popular name this off-season.

I don't have a problem with Del Rio. I know a lot people do. I remember he's not afraid to use trickeration - seemed like he always had a card up his sleeve when the Texans played the Jags.

Him + an innovative offensive coordinator could work.....

Also, he doesn't carry the already-been-to-the-Super bowl curse...

WMH 12-08-2013 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 36914)
In case anyone's forgotten, Sumlin signed a six-year extension with A&M a week or so ago. I doubt he's available.

Actually.....it was reported this morning that he has not signed anything yet. Could be semantics, might not. Doesn't fit the NFL exp. McNair spoke of, but who knows how much of that was BS.

BigBull 12-08-2013 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Arky (Post 36915)
I don't have a problem with Del Rio. I know a lot people do. I remember he's not afraid to use trickeration - seemed like he always had a card up his sleeve when the Texans played the Jags.

Him + an innovative offensive coordinator could work.....

Also, he doesn't carry the already-been-to-the-Super bowl curse...

I wouldn't have a problem with Del Rio as long as he doesn't bring an ax with him.:D

nunusguy 12-09-2013 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by barrett (Post 36896)
The Colts are falling apart right now and have been outscored 161-99 while going 2-3 in their last 5 games (with the only wins coming over Tennessee. Their roster is far worse than ours when you take QB out of the equation. They were far better last year with Arians coaching them (and Arians stomped them a few weeks ago in his return). They had tons of cap space until their young GM spent a ton of money on mediocre Free Agents this offseason. And they are already down next year's 1st round pick because they traded for a running back who averages 2.8 ypc and was benched for Donald Brown. They will win a division title by default, but nobody is turning down jobs out of fear of the Colts.

Wish we were 2-3 in our last 5 games, but yea the Colts do seem to be fading at the worst time of the year: sounds a lot like the '12 Texans doesn't it ?
And I'm with you about the Richardson pick, that decision was a real puzzler ? Too many good backs out there and too many to become available in future Drafts
to expend a first-round pick on.
Nevertheless, as the only team in the whole division which is not only set but in really good shape at QB with one of the best young signal-callers in the league, I definitely believe they have a leg-up on the competition. Having a QB now and for a long-time into the future is not everything in this league, but it's a substantial and more important necessary part of everything needed to succeed.

barrett 12-09-2013 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 36919)
Wish we were 2-3 in our last 5 games, but yea the Colts do seem to be fading at the worst time of the year: sounds a lot like the '12 Texans doesn't it ?
And I'm with you about the Richardson pick, that decision was a real puzzler ? Too many good backs out there and too many to become available in future Drafts
to expend a first-round pick on.
Nevertheless, as the only team in the whole division which is not only set but in really good shape at QB with one of the best young signal-callers in the league, I definitely believe they have a leg-up on the competition. Having a QB now and for a long-time into the future is not everything in this league, but it's a substantial and more important necessary part of everything needed to succeed.

I agree the Colts are in a better place than us due to Luck. In fact, I would rather have Luck than any NFL player going forward. But potential HCs are not going to turn down this job to hid from the Colts anymore than they would turn down the Titans job to hide from JJ Watt. Watt and Luck are great players but those teams are not some kind of unstoppable juggernauts that would make guys say no to jobs. And like I pointed out, the Colts GM appears to be on his way to wasting Luck almost as well as we have wasted Watt thus far.

Keith 12-09-2013 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by chuck (Post 36902)
How many season ticket holders do we have here? Keith? Who else?

Yep, I still have my season tickets.

As for the thread topic... if Lovie is just going to bring in his cover-2 defense, I wouldn't be thrilled. Sorta like Kubiak trotting out the good ol' WCO.

barrett 12-09-2013 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith (Post 36922)
Yep, I still have my season tickets.

As for the thread topic... if Lovie is just going to bring in his cover-2 defense, I wouldn't be thrilled. Sorta like Kubiak trotting out the good ol' WCO.

Even worse in my opinion. I really think they destroyed the Cover 2/Tampa 2 with the new rules on hitting over the middle. You can no longer design a defense around daring teams to attack the seam with their TEs and slot guys.

HPF Bob 12-09-2013 12:41 PM

I think there is going to be some new way invented to stop the spread offenses now that you can't beat up the receivers. The Seattle method of physical corners grabbing and tugging at receivers seems to be the new way but if the refs call defensive holding a lot, that isn't going to work. The other method is stampeding the quarterback but you aren't allowed to hit the QB anymore either. Makes it really tough to design an effective defense.

barrett 12-09-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 36926)
I think there is going to be some new way invented to stop the spread offenses now that you can't beat up the receivers. The Seattle method of physical corners grabbing and tugging at receivers seems to be the new way but if the refs call defensive holding a lot, that isn't going to work. The other method is stampeding the quarterback but you aren't allowed to hit the QB anymore either. Makes it really tough to design an effective defense.

Seattle is basically doing what NE did for their first superbowl when they just mugged the WRs and made the greatest show on turf disappear. That resulted in rules changes and an emphasis on calling defensive holding.

Seattle appears to be counting on the fact that the refs just can't call it every play. Plus if you mug them early in the route it is only worth 5 yards. Kind of like their team strategy that if the backup takes the same steroids as the starter the suspension won't hurt the team.

HPF Bob 12-09-2013 09:31 PM

I watched the 49ers game in between delays in the Broncos game (which were numerous) and I couldn't believe how much grabbing and yanking the Seahawks were doing without getting flagged. Davis and Crabtree, etc. were just getting grabbed like naked Playboy models on an an Indian rail car. I was saying "no wonder their defense is so highly-rated. They get away with holding on every snap." But let Kareem Jackson try that, or McCain or Swearinger? No chance. Laundry everywhere.


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