#20 Taylor Mays S 6'4" 225 USC
#51 Mike Johnson OG 6'6" 305 Alabama
#82 Brandon Ghee CB/FS 6'1" 190 Wake Forest
119 LeGarrette Blount RB 6'2" 240 Oregon
152 Myron Lewis CB/FS 6'2" 200 Vanderbilt
190 Cam Thomas DT 6'3" 330 North Carolina
200 Jeff Byers OG/OC 6'3" 290 USC
231 Chris Cook CB/FS 6'2" 210 Virginia

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I wanted a 2nd RB and thought about Keith Toston RB 6'1" 210 Oklahoma State in the 7th. This mock falls funny and I wish I had a few more picks in the 2nd 3rd round area.

Just questioning Taylor Mays, he didn't seem to produce well this past year. Seems I saw him beaten in coverage quite a bit.

I agree with you, but at the Senior Bowl he was interviewed and implied he had been coached to make the big hit, not to look for the ball. He made a nice INT at the Senior Bowl that was a possible game changer.

The kid has natural skill and appeared to be willing to listen to a coach. So if the team interviews him and decides he is the pick I am not screaming like I did during last years draft (they were right and I was wrong BTW).

I do not get to interview these kids, so I am just throwing out new ideas.

Seems like we say that every year. That's why we want to trade down, or out, of the first round for some more picks all the time.

At least we are consistent. As long as we are not in the Playoffs, I'm of the mindset that we need to get more players. How many "needs" can you think of that this team has?

1. CB to cover Reggie Wayne and replace Dunta Robinson - Not likely in this draft

2. LG to put Studdard on the Bench if Chester Pitts isn't going to be a Texan.

3. RG to allow Caldwell to slide into the OC position.

4. FS who can give help over the top and perhaps pull in some Interceptions. Perhaps get more interceptions than Brian Cushing. He also has to be a good enough tackler to be a credible presence in the Box.

5. RB who can move a pile, not fumble, and pass protect. Getting a RB who can score TDs in the Red Zone puts this team in the playoffs. Just a guy who scores 10+ TDs, that's all.

6. DT that not only stops the run, but pushes the pocket allowing Mario to get sacks. Wouldn't it be nice to have a DT that gets 6 sacks?

When we get our 6 needs down to 2 needs, then I'll be arguing that we should trade up and get that "Special" talent who won't be available when we pick at the position that we must have.

Trade up next year, 'maybe'. But, this year we still have some holes and some B/U positions to fill first. There are some good OL that will fall to us and a good RB might come our way. After that I reckon we ought to concentrate on defense since there is a wealth of defensive talent. Now, I am not saying that should be the draft order just our needs.
There was a kid name Hardesty (big & fast and Mayock mentioned that he is one-cut zone runner) that merits consideration and Blount ran well for a 240lb back. I like Marshall Newhouse at 3-5 but there are others. Most of the ones we talk about we won't have a chance at anyway. I haven't seen too many guys hurt themselves so far.

He blew up the combine, so how much do we put stock in the kid starting mailing it in when USC started to flounder, how much was coaching/scheme, and how much was playing not to get hurt. As much as I don't like to see guys who mail it in, I can understand it. Had he come last season he would have been a top 15 pick. Now he has lost the use of the money he would have had already and dropped a couple of million in overall contract amount.

When will guys projected in the 1st round learn to come out. Money now is worth more than money later.

Since Draftsite is new and much improved and the combine is over...

1. Patrick Robinson, CB, Florida St
2. Tyson Alualu, DT, Cal
3. Dorin Dickerson, TE/RB, Pitt
4. Eric Olsen, OG/C, Notre Dame
5. Rashawn Jackson, FB/RB, Virginia
6. Alterraun Verner, CB/FS, Iowa
6. Ryan Stamper, OLB, Florida
7. Corey Peters, DT, Kentucky

Not a Cherry Pick, but going with my draftboard....

1.DT Dan Williams 6'3" 327 Tennessee
2.LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 240 Missouri
3.RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 Auburn
4.LG Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 Indiana
5.RG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 TCU
6.FS Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 Vanderbilt
6.CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 UCLA
7.DT Jay Ross 6'3" 317 East Carolina

Yeah, I'd be pretty happy with that draft.

Post Combine, and today I was packing for a move and the TV was on NFLn, I think I have seen every Tebow/Mays/Suh/Weatherspoon highlight there is.

So here is my take, and I am going to pass guys I think will be gone, and grab guys where I think they are going, so no Weatherspoon at 51.

20 Ryan Mathews* RB Fresno State
51 Brandon Ghee CB Wake Forest
82 Rodger Saffold OT Indiana
119 Dekoda Watson OLB Florida State
152 Brian Jackson CB Oklahoma
190 Eric Decker WR Minnesota
200 Jeff Byers OG USC
231 Justin Woodall S Alabama

I notice that the Texans didn't tender OLG Chester Pitts. Could that mean we will draft one of the many OT's in this draft and move Duane Brown inside?

He is unrestricted, you can only tender the restricted guys.

If I were to vote on Roy or PK's last 7 rounder above, interesting either way, more likely would see a trade down if it fell PK's way. I like the positions from Roys draft as more likely my preference. Can't wait for Thursday, April 22. And thanks to everyone for their investigations and opinions.

I have been looking for "updated" rankings since the Combine and haven't really seen anything yet. While it isn't a mock draft, http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...gs&start_row=1
has at least updated rankings. So, I thought I'd look at that and compare it to my draft board.....

#20 DT Dan Williams
#51 RB Ben Tate
#82 CB Syd'Quan Thompson
#119 OG Marshall Newhouse
#152 FS Myron Lewis
#190 OC Eric Olsen
#200 DT Jay Ross
#231 CB Patrick Stoudamire

Who I think Kubiak/Smith will draft:

20 Ryan Mathews RB Fresno
51 Tyson Alualu DT Cal
82 Myron Lewis CB Vanderbilt
119 Tony Washington OT A.C.U.
152 Garrett Graham TE Wisconsin
190 Robert Johnson FS Utah
200 Edward Britton WR Texas Tech
231 Brandon Deaderick DT/DE Alabama

I'd be alright with this draft.

21 March 2010
 

1. DT Dan Williams 6'3" 327 5.17 Tennessee
2. CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 186 4.48 Rutgers
3. CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
4. FS Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6'0" 207 4.47 Indiana (Pa)
5. OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.00 TCU
6. RB Lonyae Miller 5'11" 220 4.52 Fresno St.
6. DT Jay Ross 6'3" 317 5.15 East Carolina
7. DE Lindsey Witten 6'4" 248 4.73 Connecticut

Ok, I'm actually ok with the idea of trading up for Dan Williams, so I'm happy to take him at #20. I'd be fine with taking McCourty at #20 to fill a need, so I was more than pleased to take him in the 2nd round. I've got Ghee with a 2nd round grade, so once again happy to get the BPA. In the 4th, I complete the Secondary with a small-school FS. I get a big body with agility in the 5th and another RB in the 6th. Getting Ross and Williams should improve the run defense and get some push up the middle. Witten was just the BPA in the 7th round.

They updated again on 3/20

So here is my take.

I will assume that some guys will drop, so I will look at 5 places up at each pick and then down.

1st 20 Earl Thomas FS/CB Texas 5-10 208
2nd 51 Tyson Alualu DT California 6-3 295
3rd 82 Akwasi Owusu-Ansah CB Indiana (PA) 6-0 207
4th 119 Ben Tate RB Auburn 5-11 220
5th 152 Marshall Newhouse OG TCU 6-4 319
* 5th 155 Lonyae Miller RB Fresno State 6-0 221
6A 190 Roddrick Muckelroy OLB Texas 6-2 246
6B 200 Corey Peters DT Kentucky 6-3 300
7th 231 Keiland Williams RB LSU 5-11 233

Trade back into the 5th round using 2011 4th round pick.

I merely went by my draft board and if they were gone with my pick, took the BPA...

#20 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.68 Missouri
#51 CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
#82 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi
#119 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn
#152 OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.00 TCU
#155 CB Trevard Lindley 5'11" 180 4.53 Kentucky
#190 DT Jay Ross 6'3" 317 5.15 East Carolina
#200 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 5.02 Kentucky
#231 K Aaron Pettrey 6'1" 202 4.94 Ohio St

I took 'Spoon because all the BPA at need Positions were gone, so BPA.
I have moved Tate and Jerry on my draft board since it looks like that's the only way I can get both. Getting Newhouse & Jerry gives the ZBS some power and girth to go along with agility. Lindley is not as physical as Joe Haden but defends the pass just as well. Happy with DL depth that late. My entire board was gone by #231 so I've added a PK.

Using their updated board:

1. Brian Price, DT, UCLA- BPA at a position of need, starter. Okoye becomes a reserve/rotation DT.

2. Morgan Burnett, FS, Georgia Tech- Great ballhawk that supports the run, starter.

3. Jamar Chaney, WILB, Mississippi State-Future WILL that can play any LB position in a pinch.

4. Walter McFadden, CB, Auburn- Potential Starter.

5(147). Charles Scott, RB, LSU- Rotation and situational RB.

5(155). Marshall Newhouse, OG, TCU- O line depth.

6. Joshua Moore, CB, Kansas State- Physical CB with good awareness and changes direction quickly, leadership skills, mirrors recievers well(according to Chad Reuter).

6. Jacob Ramsey, RB, Cincinnati- Could turn out to be a late round steal. RB for a Cincinnati team that went undefeated last year. Catches well, blocks well, tough to bring down and comes from a similar ZBS. Caught my eye a week ago while rewatching the Sugar Bowl on my DVR.


7. Trindon Holliday, RS,RB, LSU- With Andre Davis not returning, we select the nation's best return specialist who can double as a RB. Very dangerous in the open field.

The HuddleReport has updated their list....

#20 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.68 Missouri
#51 CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
#81 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn
#118 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia
#150 CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193 4.49 Fresno St.
#187 OC Ted Larsen 6'3" 304 5.26 North Carolina St
#197 DT Jay Ross 6'3" 317 5.15 East Carolina
#227 S Nick Polk 5'11" 213 4.54 Indiana

#20 LB Sean Weatherspoon
#51 DT Lamarr Houston
#81 CB Amari Spievey
#118 CB/FS Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
#150 OG Marshall Newhouse
#187 FB/WR Jameson Konz Kent State 6-4 234 7 4.43
#197 RB Deji Karim Southern Illinois 5-09 209 7 4.40
#227 OC/OG Jeff Byers C Southern California 6-4 301

Weatherspoon is BPA. He gives an upgrade at WILL or he can become your Mike if needed. Diles can back up all three guys.
Houston give you a high motor guy, who can get to the QB and collapse the pocket from the middle.
Spievey and Ansah are both ST standouts who can develop. Ansah might be a candidate for the FS spot.
Konz is on McClain sleeper list, which is why this does not happen, same for Karim.
Byers can play all three interior line positions, goodbye Studdard.

36. Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers
51. Jamar Chaney, OLB, Mississippi State
69. Lamar Houston, DT, Texas
82. Ben Tate, RB, Auburn
103. Myron Lewis, CB/FS, Vanderbilt
119. Torrell Troup, DT, UCF
151. Chris Scott, OT, Tennessee
187. Nate Byham, TE, Pitt
197. Trindon Holliday, RS/RB, LSU
227. Antonio Coleman, DE, Auburn


Texans select Demaryius Thomas at 20 for the the Chiefs in exchange for 36, 69, and 103.

Witherspoon is a nice player and all, but I find it hard to believe the Texans are going to take a LB with that first pick. Witherspoon would have to be the clear BPA with no CB, S, RB, OL, DL close to or of equal value being on their board. Not that I think it will happen, but I could even see them going WR before LB, if say, one of the 2 best WRs drop. IMO, it's going to be one of the following (in no particular order); Earl Thomas, Kyle Wilson, Devin McCourty, Ryan Mathews, or BPA OL or DL. One of those players will be there @ 20. My guess is they'll go DB since losing DRob and it will be between Thomas/Wilson/McCourty. I don't think Thomas will be there so I'll take Wilson.

I would add Iupati, Dan Williams (doubtful), Spiller (doubtful), Cody(very doubtful).

I would say they are not taking a OT in the 1st, and I would say they are not taking a DE in the 1st.

Meant "Weatherspoon"... :rolleyes: Although, I'm sure there's a Witherspoon out there that's a fine player, too. :p

THR has a 6 round computer Mock....this is who I chose:

#20 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.68 Missouri
#51 CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
#81 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia
#118 FS Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6'0" 207 4.47 Indiana (Pa)
#150 RB Lonyae Miller 5'11" 220 4.52 Fresno St.
#187 CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193 4.49 Fresno St.
#197 DT Jay Ross 6'3" 317 5.15 East Carolina

We may want to seriously start looking to trade up to #75 to draft a RB, because I'm not sure if a "good" one will be available when we pick at #81.

The huddlereport has us taking
20 LB Sean Weatherspoon Missouri
51 CB Patrick Robinson Florida St
81 RB Anthony Dixon Mississippi St
118 QB Jarrett Brown West Virginia
150 S Myron Rolle Florida St
187 OG Jeff Byers USC
197 WR *Freddie Barnes Bowling Green

my cherry pick
20 LB Sean Weatherspoon Missouri
51 DT Lamarr Houston Texas
81 OC JD Walton Baylor
118 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah Indiana (PA)
150 RB Lonyae Miller Fresno St
187 QB John Skelton Fordham
197 RB Javarris James Miami

My front 7 is now one of the strongest in football on paper

new 7 round mock from draftsite.com

20 Dez Bryant* WR Oklahoma State
51 Nate Allen S South Florida
82 Amari Spievey* CB Iowa
119 Jarrett Brown QB West Virginia
151 Charles Scott RB LSU
188 Jeff Byers OG USC
198 Kion Wilson ILB South Florida
228 Kenny Alfred OC Washington State

I like the Huddles mock, except for all of that folishness with the guy from Jasper - what, we gonna use our first-round pick as a bench-warmer in nickel situations ? I don't think so. And what a steal to get P. Robinson at 51 overall, who some have as the #2 corner after Haden.
Dixon would be great, him or Gerhardt is the kind of big thumper we need to add to our corps of backs and with a third-round pick.
Here's a question - I was watching the NFLNetwork this week and they were interviewing L.Houston and he was talking about the nose tackle positoon ?
Anybody know what's that's about 'cause I thought he was a 3-tech guy only ?
And another question - which back or backs, if any, in this years Draft reminds you of Shonn Greene, the back the Jets got last year at the begging of the third
round ?

20.LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.68 Missouri

51.CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest

82.RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn

119.DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington

151.CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA

188.CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193 4.49 Fresno St.

198.DT Earl Mitchell 6'2" 296 4.75 Arizona

228.OG Shelley Smith 6'3" 300 5.03 Colorado State

I will say that this particular site has players all over the place. Either I'm really overrating some guys, or they are waaay off the mark. The question comes into play about the CB position that has been believed to be the BIG need. At 20 Kyle Wilson, Devin McCourty, & Patrick Robinson may be worthwhile, but Alterraun Verner, Aj Jefferson, Kevin Thomas, Trevard Lindley, and Crezdon Butler would be servicable in pass defense much later in the draft.

Perhaps I can draft the BPA in the first, take the best RB in the 2nd, the best OL/DL in the 3rd and 4th, and then grab DB's that fit our system best. Just a thought.

OK I will try this:

1 Mike Iupati OG Idaho
2 Montario Hardesty RB Tennessee
3 Lamarr Houston DT Texas
4 Linval Joseph* DT East Carolina
5 Donovan Warren* CB Michigan
6 Deji Karim RB Southern Illinois
6 Jamar Wall CB Texas Tech
7 Zane Beadles OG Utah

Sorry I had to grab a RB in the 6th because McNair said we are taking two of them.

I thought about pulling a Duane Brown and reaching for a need in the first round...

1. Jon Asamoah OG Illinois
2. Ben Tate RB Auburn
3. Geno Atkins DT Georgia
4. Linval Joseph DT ECU
5. James Starks RB Buffalo (my 2nd RB)
6. Brian Jackson FS Oklahoma
6. Alterraun Verner CB UCLA
7. Daniel Te'o-Nesheim DE Washington (There's NO way he's a 7th round pick)
FA. Crezdon Butler CB Clemson (Did I mention Calvin Johnson was held to 0 catches when he played Clemson?)

I think this organization has shown that it can put together some quality drafts.... This doesn't match that in my opinion.

Really?

2009 - Houston Texans
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 15 Brian Cushing LB USC
2 46 Connor Barwin DE Cincinnati
3 77 Antoine Caldwell C Alabama
4 112 Glover Quin DB New Mexico
4 122 Anthony Hill TE North Carolina State
5 152 James Casey TE Rice
6 188 Brice McCain DB Utah
7 223 Troy Nolan DB Arizona State
2008 - Houston Texans

Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 26 Duane Brown T Virginia Tech
3 79 Antwaun Molden CB Eastern Kentucky
3 89 Steve Slaton RB West Virginia
4 118 Xavier Adibi OLB Virginia Tech
5 151 Frank Okam DT Texas
6 173 Dominique Barber FS Minnesota
7 223 Alex Brink QB Washington State

2007 - Houston Texans
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 10 Amobi Okoye DT Louisville
3 73 Jacoby Jones WR Lane
4 123 Fred Bennett CB South Carolina
5 144 Brandon Harrison DB Stanford
5 163 Brandon Frye OT Virginia Tech
6 183 Kasey Studdard G Texas
7 218 Zach Diles LB Kansas State

Amazing how many players from those three drafts are still on the team. The shows what crap Kubiak inherited.

:eek:

lol

Man, it sure would be nice to get an unexpected, but much needed rebound in production from Fred Bennet. I've pretty much written off Molden as waisted pick and will be surprised if he makes it out of (or even to) camp this year.

Yep. I think this team is in need of 2-3 immediate impact players still and I don't feel as if that draft you put out there has a single player that could come in and make a significant immediate impact on this team. Aside from what I would consider major reaches with the first two picks you don't address a primary need (the secondary) until the 6th round. To me... that's just not getting the job done.

Ok, I just did a mock and drafted 2 RBs.

1. S Earl Thomas
2. OG Jon Asamoah
3. RB Ben Tate
4. RB Jonathan Dwyer
5. DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim
6. CB Kevin Thomas
6. LB Simoni Lawrence
7. CB Crezdon Butler

I think Dwyer may just be that short yardage back that had a slow 40 and has enough ???? to drop in the draft. Playing in the Option at Ga. Tech and being the FB, may perhaps make him a bargain. So much so, that I've put him back on my draftboard.

Why are you waiting til the 6th round to fill our biggest need?