Really early to do a lot of round-projecting but I think many on this list will be gone by the time we're on the clock. Waynes is a good call but I've seen Perryman listed as a first-rounder, Petty as a third-rounder and Greenberry as a fourth so it looks great if you can grab them the middle of the next round. That's what I hate about cherry-picking with no context.

Maybe that's why I didn't hate it, because it's unreasonably optimistic.

I would have to agree, that is not half bad.

I would agree that it's early, but currently cbssports has Perryman at 54, Petty at 117, Greenberry at 160. And the Texans picks currently are 51, 113, and 144.

As you have pointed out there is no consensus on these guys and where that stack up, but there are some list that would make these picks possible.

Texans have their weekly survey of 28 draft sites up
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/ar...c-4caba8b424d0

Pick breakdown

CB: 7 (25%)
OT: 6 (21%)
LB: 4 (14%)
S: 4 (14%)
DL: 3 (11%)
RB: 2 (7%)
WR & TE each with 1 apiece for 4% each

Texans included a nice video from combine of Trae Waynes running 40 in 4.35 who was picked by six of seven drafters picking a CB.

There is also a video analyzing team needs which quotes O'Brien to McClain answering QB, WR, secondary, line backers.

Of course that list of needs makes sense when you look at Texans top seven FA , who could be gone if not signed by March 10, next week.
◾ Kareem Jackson, CB
◾ Brooks Reed, OLB
◾ Ryan Pickett, DT
◾ Danieal Manning, S
◾ Kendrick Lewis, S
◾ Ryan Mallett, QB
◾ Derek Newton, OT

I bet that percent goes up next week.

I'd like to see us trade down unless somebody jumps out at #16. The mocks I look at, we could go down to 22-24, pick up another second day pick and add another contributor.

That's not a bad idea

I did a mock draft on Fanspeak.com with the intention of taking CB Kevin Johnson TE Clive Warford and WR Tyler Lockett in the first three rounds. Instead it played out like this :
16 WR Amari Cooper
51 TE Maxx Williams
82 CB Byron Jones
113 QB Bryce Petty
144 RT Rob Havenstein
179 LG Mitch Morse
210 FS Damorious Randall
I wanted a ILB & DT and perhaps an OLB, but really couldn't complain about the results.

Just got a new Mock from DraftTek

16 Malcom Brown Texas DT34 6'4" 320
51 Devin Smith Ohio St WRF 6'1" 197
82 Duke Johnson Miami (FL) RBF 5'9" 207
113 Charles Gaines Louisville CB 5'11" 175
144 Ben Heeney Kansas ILB 6'0" 231
179 Deion Barnes Penn St DE34 6'4" 245
210 Chris Conley Georgia WRF 6'2" 213

I would have to take Preston Smith instead of Duke Johnson. But I like the players.

Just read some of the best news.
BOB interviewed Chris Conley for an hour at UGA proday.
He's a kid I'm REALLY hoping we draft this year, and a perfect compliment to Hopkins. Is projected to go in the 4-5 round, but may go sooner after is ridiculous combine.


http://espn.go.com/blog/houston-texa...h-chris-conley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmPVipftmes

Most of the mocks now have us taking a WR in the first round - mostly Devante Parker or Jaelen Strong with one (Rob Rang) thinking we'll be the ones to believe in Dorial Green-Beckham.

I don't think DG-B is a possibility but I have been doing at least one mock a day at Fanspeak and it is interesting how often somebody falls at #16 you didn't expect and that trade-down possibilties are there. With all the trading frenzy that happened in free agency, some draft-day trades also seem very likely. Could the Texans be one?

Would the Browns (at 19) or the Eagles (at 20) be in the mood to deal?

Cool stuff... He sounds like a good athlete....

I wonder if Obie spoke with that Gurly fella while he was there....

Conley is a sub 4.4 40 guy and that's the kind of speed we need to compliment Hops who's not that kind of burner. Forget about the 4-5 range, and after this kids pro day there's no telling how high he' gonna go. Wonder if O'Brien really likes him that much, or if it's some kind of decoy or diversion to make that big show about visiting him personally at his PD ?

I have been doing at least one mock a day at Fanspeak and it is interesting how often somebody falls at #16 you didn't expect and that trade-down possibilties are there. With all the trading frenzy that happened in free agency, some draft-day trades also seem very likely.
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I have drafted Amari Cooper and Kevin White. As well as Bud Dupree and Randy Gregory. Even Shane Ray could fall after his Pro Day.

I have either done the same or had the opportunity. My eyes popped when it was Gregory. As much as I wanted to draft a WR in the first, I chose Gregory. I've seen him go as early as #3 in some mocks. Imagine if we could throw him, Watt, Wilfork, Cushing and a healthy Clowney at teams?

Here's a fairly representative sample. Keep in mind that this is before the comp picks are announced and without much study of lower-round prospects. When it got to 16, Devante Parker was available but there were also some good defensive players and Jaelen Strong was still on the board so I traded down with Cincinnati to #21 and acquired their third-rounder, thinking I still had Strong if I lost out on Parker. Instead, Parker was still there.

#21 - (from CIN) Devante Parker, WR, Louisville
#51 - Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson
#82 - Hroniss Grasu, C, Oregon (if Myers isn't re-signed, we need a C behind Ben Jones)
#85 - (from CIN) Jesse James, TE, Penn St. (for O'Brien)
#113 - Chris Hackett, S, TCU
#144 - Chris Conley, WR, Georgia (since he's still there and we publicly courted him)
#179 - Quandre Diggs, CB, Texas (fell off a bit as a senior but has NFL talent)
#210 - Chucky Hunter, DT, TCU

I have my doubts about Conley but the others could realistically be there at that point of the draft.

I am a bit skeptical of some of the draft boards that I am seeing them use. If it's too good to be true, it probably is. Yet it is nice to see some of the possibilities. I also use it to verify when I like a player too much and draft them in the 3rd round and see them consistently being drafted in the 5th or 6th round if I pass on them. I have used four different draft boards and these are some of the permutations :

1st round - Amari Cooper, Bud Dupree, Jaelen Strong, Kevin White
2nd round - Clive Walford, Laken Tomlinson, Preston Smith, Kevin Johnson
3rd round - Henry Anderson, Ali Marpet, Philip Dorsett, Xavier Cooper
4th round - Anthony Chickillo, Donovan Smith, Eric Rowe, Steven Nelson
5th round - Bryce Petty, Jesse James, Ben Heeney, Kwon Alexander
6th round - David Johnson, Derrick Lott, Tre McBride, Damarious Randall
7th round - Jake Ryan, Xavier Williams, Mitch Morse, Shane Carden

My Mock 1st round
 

As I was saying....I have a hard time buying some of the "information" I have read. So, I decided to throw my hat in the ring and create my own mock draft.

1 TB DT Leonard Williams
2 Tenn DE Dante Fowler
3 Jax DE Vic Beasley
4 Oak OLB Randy Gregory
5 Wash QB Jameis Winston
6 NYJ OLB Shane Ray
7 Chi CB Trae Waynes
8 Atl DE Bud Dupree
9 NYG S Landon Collins
10 StL WR Kevin White
11 Minn OT La'el Collins
12 Cle WR Amari Cooper
13 NO DT Malcolm Brown
14 Mia OT Ereck Flowers
15 SF OG Brandon Scherff
16 Hou WR Devante Parker
17 SD QB Marcus Mariota
18 KC OC Cameron Erving
19 Cle DT Danny Shelton
20 Phi DE Preston Smith
21 Cin WR Jaelen Strong
22 Pitt DE Arik Armstead
23 Det OT TJ Clemmings
24 Az RB Melvin Gordon
25 Car OT Andrus Peat
26 Bal RB Todd Gurley
27 Dal DT Jordan Phillips
28 Den LB Eric Kendricks
29 Ind OLB Eli Harold
30 GB DT Eddie Goldman
31 NO CB Jalen Collins
32 NE CB Kevin Johnson

Winston has too much documented off-field issues and Lovey is a Defensive Coach. He can't pass on the "Next Warren Sapp" in Tampa Bay. The Redskins can still trade RGIII since Coach Gruden doesn't seem to appreciate him. Phil Rivers is pressing his luck in SD, so the Chargers buy insurance that falls in their laps. Two RBs in the first round?!?! :p

I can't believe Mariota falls to 17. Surely the Jets draft him if nobody else will. If we're at 16 and Mariota is still on the board, we're going to get some great offers to trade down, particularly from Philly.

I am hopeful, just not sure if Chip Kelly pulls the trigger. If Cleveland gets on the phone to express interest, then maybe. Chip may be bluffing, but it sounded like he was content with Sam Bradford & Mark Sanchez. Then, again he may be betting on Mariota falling to him at 20 after that bad Pro Day.

Some things to keep in mind. Mariota could fall because he isn't NFL Ready for any other team except the Eagles. There are other players available who can make an impact in the rookie year. Now, Cleveland has an extra first round pick to risk. So, we would have to make a market and have Cleveland bidding against Philadelphia for the chance to leapfrog. We tell the Browns that Mariota isn't dropping to #19 because Philadelphia isn't staying at #20.

Looking at the Trade Value chart our #16 pick is worth 1000 points.
Cle : #19 (875), #77 (205), #108 (78) #139 (37) #173 (22)
Phi : #20 (850), #84 (170), #110 (74) #148 (32) #180 (19)

So, we could get a 3rd & 4th from Philly or a 4th, 5th, and 6th from Cleveland. So, you give up the opportunity to get a "Top 3 WR" for an extra 3rd or 4th rounder. I would do it, not sure if Rick Smith would. Of course he may only be offered a 4th & 5th or nothing at all if both teams believe that Mariota continues to free fall.

I just completed another mock draft on Fanspeak.com and came away with the following :
#16 WR Amari Cooper
#51 CB Kevin Johnson
#82 WR Phillip Dorsett
#113 OC Ali Marpet
#144 OLB Anthony Chickillo
#179 OT D.J. Humphries
#210 ILB Bryce Hager

I have a hard time believing Humphries lasts that long, but was using the "Composite" Draft Board.

Considering the Eagles potential draft trade, the players available at #84 included DL Henry Anderson, QB Bryce Petty, OL Donovan Smith, & WR Devin Smith. The players available at #110 included ILBs Jake Ryan, Stephone Anthony, and Jordan Hicks.

My latest mock attempt had all four receivers disappear on me. I traded down with the Steelers to pick up their 2nd and still able to land Malcom Brown, DT from Texas. With the board being a bit crazy, I could still get Landon Collins amd Maxx Williams in the second. I didn't get a WR until the 4th (Kevin Lockett) and 6th (Deonte Greenberry). Couldn't land a good ILB and the WRs are not star caliber but those were some nice additions.

D.J. Humphries is the oddest selection on these mocks and big boards. He's either Top 50 or down in the fifth or sixth rounds. The NFL evaluators told him he should go back to Florida for another year and he ignored them. Apparently had a good combine.

My first mock with the Comp Picks added:

16 *Malcom Brown DT Texas Jr 6-2 319
51 Jalen Collins CB LSU rJr 6-1 203
82 Phillip Dorsett WR Miami (Fla.) Sr 5-10 185
116 Bryce Petty QB Baylor rSr 6-3 230
152 Taiwan Jones ILB Michigan State Sr 6-3 245
174 Nick Marshall CB Auburn Sr 6-1 207
194 Shaquille Riddick DE West Virginia Sr 6-6 236
211 Nick Boyle TE Delaware Sr 6-4 268
216 Josh Robinson RB Mississippi State rJr 5-8 217
235 Miles Dieffenbach OG Penn State rSr 6-3 305

I admit that I don't have great knowledge at the bottom of the draft, and two CBs might be one to many. With the owner and the HC both attaching Nix, Brown is the young guy that has time to develop under Wilfork, and can play DE or DT. Dorsett adds blazing speed and allows you play Short outside. Petty is allowed to develop behind Hoyer/Mallett. Giving us our best QB room in team history.

After that, I am filling positions more so than drafting players. Some of you guys will have better selection in the late rounds.

Also I know I have been on Brown for some time, but I don't see a WR at 16, and I am not sure they go RB that early.

A key question is whether Bryce Petty is an O'Brien type of quarterback. Plus, if he drafts someone too famous to hide on the practice squad, is it admission that they wasted a pick on Savage?

We will not know if Petty is an BOB type guy until he is or isn't picked. As for Savage, no one knows what BOB thinks there either. To my knowledge, BOB has not discussed Savage this offseason. And taking a flyer on a QB last year does not preclude us from taking a another guy this year. That is just my opinion.

I think its excellent for Texans to now have ten draft picks to work with this year. We already have three promising young QB, why confuse the issue further by drafting a fourth which couldn't stay on active roster , unless super good.

I suppose comments by BOB and RSmith are in full mislead the public mode to do with draft right now.

Found this interesting list of about 50 guys Texans have met with and had private workouts preparing for this draft. The list keeps growing. Wonder how many of these will be drafted or UDFA for Texans.

http://hou.scout.com/story/1528951-2...ect-list?s=116

I am okay with Malcolm Brown, he has size to play the NT and can push the pocket. I am a fan of Dorsett, he reminds me of Steve Smith. The 2 CBs you drafted you let battle for the Nickel and the other can play Safety when you want D. Swag on the bench because he's a liability in the passing game.

Petty is my favorite QB in the draft, if you can get him in the 3rd round or later. He is behind a guy like Andrew Luck because he's been in a gimmick Offense, which is why I shake my head about Mariota being discussed as a 1st round pick. He needs time to adjust to the NFL, but I think he could be better than Alex Smith, Andy Dalton, or Ryan Mallet in two years.

T. Jones can tackle, but I am concerned about pass coverage.

The TE reminds me of Fedorowicz. Solid, but not spectacular.

Since Savage was only a 4th rounder I don't think there would (or at least should) be much wailing if another young QB were drafted to compete with him. It's not like they invested much in him. Heck, since they drafted him they've already traded for and re-signed Mallett and signed Hoyer.

He is "raw" but the upside is great. He reminds me of a better Loadholt or Oher. Could play RT starting day one.

Nice List Thanks

Fanspeak.com updated their Draft Board and it feels like it is getting closer to the truth. This was the top 15 picks:
1 TB - Marcus Mariota
2 Ten - Leonard Williams
3 Jax - Shane Ray
4 Oak - Kevin White
5 Was - Dante Fowler
6 NYJ - Vic Beasley
7 Chi - Amari Cooper
8 Atl - Randy Gregory
9 NYG - Brandon Scherff
10 StL - Trae Waynes
11 Min - Devante Parker
12 Cle - Landon Collins
13 NO - Malcolm Brown
14 Mia - TJ Clemmings
15 SF - Bud Dupree

So, for the Texans I selected the following :
16 OL - La'el Collins
51 CB - Kevin Johnson
82 OLB - Anthony Chickillo
116 QB - Bryce Petty
152 WR - Chris Conley
174 ILB - Jake Ryan
194 RB - Karlos Williams
211 CB - Justin Coleman
216 DL - Leterrius Walton
235 DL - Ray Drew

What happened to Jameis Winston at 1 to TB?

That one pick made me stop looking at that mock.

Jameis Winston was selected #20 by the Eagles.

If Jameis is there at #16, we take him.

I have seen some Mock Drafts where Mariota falls to #20, so for the purpose of "What If" - it would be better for the Texans if both QBs were selected before our pick, pushing down a player who would fit into a need. Unless you are one of those people who would draft Winston or Mariota or hope to trade the pick to someone else who does.

IMO, a franchise QB is the biggest need this team has. Has ever had!! No way they should pass up on Winston or Mariota if one of them is sitting there at #16. Good God we have a Cleveland cast-off, an unproven cast-off, and an unproven 1-yr guy who didn't last a whole game. It would be insane to pass up Winston or MM. And I don't buy into this "BOB's type of guy". What is BOB's type of guy? He has a ~6' noodle-armed QB, a 6'5" strong-armed QB that nobody knows anything about, and someone in between. What is BOBs type of guy? If you have a shot at one of the top QBs in the draft - especially at a value-pick like #16, you fire that bullet, IMO. You don't sit and hope someone (Petty) will be there in RD2/3/4 or that you'll get your guy next year.