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Nconroe 05-10-2014 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 38147)
Rick Smith made a fairly strong hint in a Q-&-A the other day that Reed is now likely to go inside next to Cushing since we've now got JD & Mercilus at OLB.
OK so I'm wondering about O'brien's possible interest in a slot receiver in the Texans remaining picks, a subject/position he's been known to talk about.

After the second day of practice this week, O'Brien said, after seeing receivers on the squad we already have several WR who can play the slot.

Blitzwood 05-10-2014 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck (Post 38153)
RB or CB. You can never have too many guys competing for a CB spot.

100% agree.

I was hoping Ed Reynolds would continue to fall to us in the 6th, but eagles just took him in the 5th, great value.

I want a db, rb, og, or lb here.

Arky 05-10-2014 02:25 PM

Murray (Chiefs) and McCarron (Bengals) go back-to-back @ 5.23 and 5.24.....

Roy P 05-10-2014 02:27 PM

Any thoughts on getting another Big DT for Romeo?

NT Anthony Johnson LSU 6' 2 1/2" 308
NT Zack Kerr Delaware 6' 1 3/8" 326


My board is bare of any DBs.

OLB James Gayle Virgina Tech 6' 3 3/4" 259
OLB Devon Kennard USC 6' 3" 249
OLB Howard Jones Shepard 6' 2 1/2" 235
NT Zack Kerr Delaware 6' 1 3/8" 326
OT James Hurst North Carolina 6'5" 296

chuck 05-10-2014 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy P (Post 38157)
Any thoughts on getting another Big DT for Romeo?

I like that, too, since we don't know how healthy Nix is going to be. But right now the secondary looks pretty rough.

Roy P 05-10-2014 02:46 PM

6'3" 310lbs 4.92-Forty.....Guess Romeo gets his big DE

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profil...gan?id=2543547

Arky 05-10-2014 02:46 PM

Jeoffrey Pagan


DE
6-3˝, 310 lbs
Alabama

Arky 05-10-2014 02:49 PM

Round 5 in the books (w/ESPN grade):

1 Taylor Hart DE Eagles 64
2 Ryan Grant WR Redskins 51
3 Kadeem Edwards OG Buccaneers 55
4 Telvin Smith OLB Jaguars 68
5 David Yankey OG Vikings 59
6 Devin Street WR Cowboys 44
7 Ricardo Allen DB Falcons 34
8 Bené Benwikere DB Panthers 54
9 Kevin Pamphile OT Buccaneers 30
10 Aaron Lynch DE 49ers 52
11 Avery Williamson ILB Titans 41
12 Nat Berhe S Giants 40
13 Cyril Richardson OG Bills 64
14 Jeremiah George ILB Jets 33
15 Arthur Lynch TE Dolphins 45
16 Lamin Barrow OLB Broncos 57
17 Shaquille Richardson DB Steelers 30
18 Caraun Reid DT Lions 70
19 Chris Smith DE Jaguars 65
20 Ed Stinson DE Cardinals 69
21 Corey Linsley C Packers 30
22 Ed Reynolds S Eagles 42
23 Aaron Murray QB Chiefs 62
24 AJ McCarron QB Bengals 78
25 Ryan Carrethers DT Chargers 42
26 Jonathan Newsome DE Colts 44
27 Vinnie Sunseri S Saints 43
28 Marquis Spruill OLB Falcons 37
29 Ronald Powell OLB Saints 48
30 Keith Reaser DB 49ers 30
31 Jordie Tripp OLB Dolphins 58
32 Jimmy Staten DT Seahawks 30
33 Wesley Johnson C Steelers 49
34 Devon Kennard OLB Giants 34
35 John Urschel OG Ravens 67
36 Jared Abbrederis WR Packers 48

Arky 05-10-2014 02:57 PM

Alfred Blue RB LSU

Roy P 05-10-2014 02:58 PM

Okay....so we do get a RB. 1253 rush yds, 6 yds/carry, 11 TD (in career) :confused:

6'2" 223lbs 4.63

HPF Bob 05-10-2014 03:05 PM

Blue injured his knee and missed most of 2012 then got stuck behind others during his senior year but he has size, speed and good hands according to the scouts. He could be one of those like Terrell Davis that nobody knows because he didn't play that much. He could have been a UDFA like Foster.

Arky 05-10-2014 03:13 PM

I'd like to see them get some special team types the rest of the way....

WMH 05-10-2014 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy P (Post 38163)
Okay....so we do get a RB. 1253 rush yds, 6 yds/carry, 11 TD (in career) :confused:

6'2" 223lbs 4.63

As an LSU fan, I can tell you that his production was limited due to some injuries and total RBBC scenario. He's a pretty good runner.

Arky 05-10-2014 04:16 PM

FB Jay Prosch Auburn

Nconroe 05-10-2014 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arky (Post 38168)
FB Jay Prosch Auburn

I guess they are determined to be able to run this year. Maybe a good special teams guy.

HPF Bob 05-10-2014 04:20 PM

Six rounds are almost complete and not one Texas Longhorn has been selected. Not Jackson Jeffcoat. Not Mike Davis. Not Anthony Fera.

Explains why a new head coach was needed.

Nconroe 05-10-2014 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Arky (Post 38160)
Jeoffrey Pagan
DE
6-3˝, 310 lbs
Alabama

Looks like he was projected as rd 3-4 pick as a JR, so good value in sixth. Maybe some knee concerns.

Joe Joe 05-10-2014 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 38170)
Six rounds are almost complete and not one Texas Longhorn has been selected. Not Jackson Jeffcoat. Not Mike Davis. Not Anthony Fera.

Explains why a new head coach was needed.

My initial thought was Kubiak didn't draft Longhorns either....

Arky 05-10-2014 04:29 PM

CB Andre Hal Vandy

Arky 05-10-2014 04:31 PM

6th round in the books (w/ESPN grade):

1 Jeoffrey Pagan DE Texans 63
2 Zach Mettenberger QB Titans 60
3 Jon Halapio OG Patriots 43
4 Kenneth Acker DB 49ers 30
5 Alfred Blue RB Texans 33
6 Antone Exum DB Vikings 65
7 David Fales QB Bears 63
8 Kendall James DB Vikings 52
9 Robert Herron WR Buccaneers 67
10 Lache Seastrunk RB Redskins 58
11 Bennett Jackson DB Giants 39
12 E.J. Gaines DB Rams 45
13 TJ Jones WR Lions 53
14 Matt Hazel WR Dolphins 46
15 Pat O'Donnell P Bears 34
16 Jordan Zumwalt OLB Steelers 42
17 Zach Fulton OG Chiefs 51
18 Keith Wenning QB Ravens 42
19 Brandon Dixon DB Jets 30
20 Walt Powell WR Cardinals 30
21 Demetri Goodson DB Packers 41
22 Zach Moore DE Patriots 46
23 Garrett Scott OT Seahawks 30
24 Laurent Duvernay-Tardif OT Chiefs 42
25 Marion Grice RB Chargers 50
26 Tavon Rooks OT Saints 30
27 Andrew Jackson ILB Colts 49
28 Tyler Gaffney RB Panthers 56
29 Luke Bowanko C Jaguars 30
30 Jemea Thomas S Patriots 47
31 Matt Paradis C Broncos 30
32 Eric Pinkins S Seahawks 30
33 Quincy Enunwa WR Jets 39
34 IK Enemkpali DE Jets 31
35 Jay Prosch FB Texans 36
36 Marquis Flowers OLB Bengals 30
37 Tajh Boyd QB Jets 39
38 Garrett Gilbert QB Rams 31
39 Dan McCullers DT Steelers 62

Nconroe 05-10-2014 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arky (Post 38173)
CB Andre Hal Vandy

Average size for CB, good KR, competitive cover apparently from Vanderbilt

Only Mr Irrelevant to go.

popanot 05-10-2014 04:50 PM

Looks like BOB wants a team that will beat the $h#t out of the other team. No more Kubiak finesse. I'm good with that.

painekiller 05-10-2014 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nconroe (Post 38175)
Only Mr Irrelevant to go.

Solid draft, going for big tough guys. Can't wait for this to be over

HPF Bob 05-10-2014 04:59 PM

Will a Longhorn get picked before a gay guy? :confused:

Cowboys have five picks late. Jackson Jeffcoat's father was longtime Cowboys DE Jim Jeffcoat. Plus we know what a publicity whore Jerry Jones is. This could get interesting.

barrett 05-10-2014 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by popanot (Post 38176)
Looks like BOB wants a team that will beat the $h#t out of the other team. No more Kubiak finesse. I'm good with that.

That was my thought. We will apparently be big and physical.

HPF Bob 05-10-2014 05:44 PM

Texans should offer to take Michael Sam as Mr. Irrelevant if the league promises to add a third round comp pick for next year. See if it flies.

chuck 05-10-2014 05:52 PM

The gay guy gets drafted before any Longhorn. That sounds about right.

HPF Bob 05-10-2014 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck (Post 38181)
The gay guy gets drafted before any Longhorn. That sounds about right.

You just gotta laugh. UT will be back.

Guaranteed the Rams get chosen for "Hard Knocks" now.

chuck 05-10-2014 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 38182)
You just gotta laugh. UT will be back.

Guaranteed the Rams get chosen for "Hard Knocks" now.

I certainly hope the new guy is interested in coaching his players. The old guy obviously wasn't.

I hope that young man goes out and plays great and we can collectively turn a page and start thinking about something else. I'm proud of him and proud of the Rams.

Arky 05-10-2014 06:10 PM

Lonnie Ballentine S Memphis

HPF Bob 05-10-2014 06:11 PM

He deserves a fair shot. The NFL has had gay players before and survived.

And the draft closes with a Ballentine!

Arky 05-10-2014 06:12 PM

Round 7 in the books (w/ESPN grade):

1 Dre Hal DB Texans 42
2 Ted Bolser TE Redskins 30
3 Michael Campanaro WR Ravens 47
4 T.J. Carrie DB Raiders 43
5 Shamar Stephen DT Vikings 67
6 Randell Johnson OLB Bills 30
7 Storm Johnson RB Jaguars 59
8 Brandon Watts OLB Vikings 31
9 Beau Allen DT Eagles 36
10 Jabari Price DB Vikings 40
11 Mitchell Van Dyk OT Rams 30
12 Kiero Small FB Seahawks 30
13 Zach Hocker PK Redskins 30
14 Nate Freese PK Lions 30
15 Rob Blanchflower TE Steelers 34
16 Ben Gardner DE Cowboys 38
17 Ulrick John OT Colts 30
18 Trevor Reilly OLB Jets 30
19 Terrence Fede DE Dolphins 30
20 Shelby Harris DE Raiders 30
21 Jeff Janis WR Packers 52
22 Seantrel Henderson OT Bills 53
23 Will Smith ILB Cowboys 30
24 James Wright WR Bengals --
25 Tevin Reese WR Chargers 49
26 C.B. Bryant S Rams 30
27 Corey Nelson OLB Broncos 30
28 Kaleb Ramsey DT 49ers 37
29 Jeremy Gallon WR Patriots 30
30 Trey Millard FB 49ers 40
31 Charles Leno OT Bears 49
32 Jonathan Dowling DB Raiders 46
33 Ahmad Dixon S Cowboys 56
34 Michael Sam DE Rams 43
35 Demetrius Rhaney C Rams 30
36 Ken Bishop DT Cowboys 30
37 Lavelle Westbrooks DB Bengals 48
38 Yawin Smallwood ILB Falcons 48
39 Terrance Mitchell DB Cowboys 55
40 Tyler Starr OLB Falcons 35
41 Lonnie Ballentine S Texans 33

chuck 05-10-2014 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 38185)
He deserves a fair shot. The NFL has had gay players before and survived.

And the draft closes with a Ballentine!

One of my all-time favorite Oilers was gay as a picnic basket.

HPF Bob 05-10-2014 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck (Post 38187)
One of my all-time favorite Oilers was gay as a picnic basket.

I didn't know you knew them so personally, Chuck. ;)

Keith 05-10-2014 06:31 PM

Re: Sam, if there is a head coach capable of managing distractions, I'd pick Jeff Fisher. He did an admirable job during the Oilers move to Tennessee, and in general, working for a publicity nightmare of an owner in Bud Adams.

barrett 05-10-2014 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith (Post 38189)
Re: Sam, if there is a head coach capable of managing distractions, I'd pick Jeff Fisher. He did an admirable job during the Oilers move to Tennessee, and in general, working for a publicity nightmare of an owner in Bud Adams.

Just don't ask his teams to score points or do anything other than lap the rest of the league when it comes to personal fouls.

Nconroe 05-10-2014 08:56 PM

This Mr Irrelevant seems to have raw physical skills, ran 4.38 at pro day.

Good special teams to start

Lonnie Ballentine (FS)
HT: 6'3" WT: 219LBS.
POSITION: FS
SCHOOL: Memphis
ARM LENGTH: 33"
HANDS: 9 1/2"

Roy P 05-10-2014 10:54 PM

I like the FB from Auburn. Didn't think we'd draft one. Should help the running game immensely.

Keith 05-10-2014 11:08 PM

In case you didn't get enough of the draft this weekend, channel 13 locally is airing a draft special "Texans Reloaded: 2014 Draft" at 11pm Sunday night.

Joshua 05-11-2014 08:11 AM

By all accounts, Sam seems like a good guy and what he did definitely took courage so I hope he's able to make it. However, I do find it ironic that the people (particularly media) pushing for him are the ones doing him the biggest disservice.

He's a marginal prospect. But because of his coming out, he will create a disportionate amount of media coverage. I suspect most coaches don't like the idea of getting asked repeated questions about fringe guys (see Tebow the last year or so). Moreover, it won't just be the coaches who get asked. Every player is going to get asked questions about him as well. Many of these guys are young and maybe not the most PR savvy. So, a team now has to worry about someone sticking their foot in their mouth constantly. And finally, since he is a fringe guy, there is a very real possibility (likelihood?) that he doesn't make it out of training camp. When he's cut, it won't simply be a 7th rounder washing out like most do. Questions will invariably arise about whether the coach/team is homophobic and didn't want a gay guy on the team. All of these questions will be in the name of purportedly helping Sam, but all they will do is make his transition that much more difficult and make it more likely that another team decides not to deal with the hassle.


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