On 2nd and 11, short pass to Coleman gets 4. 3rd and 7 coming up.

Deep pass to Baldwin along the sideline is initially ruled inc. Seahawks challenge that it was a catch.....

Play is ruled a catch. Seahawks ball and a 1st down at their 29.

Wilson scrambles for nice gainer. 25 yards.

Lynch for 4.

Lynch for 17 and a 1st down. Ball at the Texan 25.

Wilson's pass into the endzone is complete for the TD but the receiver pushed off. Places the ball at the Texan 35, 1st and 20.

Deep pass to G Tate sails inc. 2nd and 20 coming up.

Wilson scrambles for 13. 3rd and 7 coming up.

Pass to Baldwin is complete at the Texan 14, 1st down.

Flags presnap. Offsides Seahawk -5. 1st and 15 coming up.

Wilson is sacked! Mercilus and Watt on the sack. 2nd and 24 coming up.

Wilson keeps it and sweeps left for 11. 3rd and 13 coming up.

Pass to Tate gets about 10..... 4th and 2 coming up. Seahawks to go for it.

Wilson scrambles for 4. 1st and goal Seahawks at the 3 yard line.

Pitch out to Lynch sweeping left gets the easy TD.

Texans 20, Seahawks 13.

7:43 left in the 4th quarter.

This one play really negates a lot of the good things Tate has been doing this season.

Yep, we need a few points and a time consuming drive here.

That didn't happen.

Let's go defense.

Martin downs the ensuing kickoff in the endzone. Texans ball at their 20.

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Pass to AJ goes inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Down goes Schaub. Loss of 9. 3rd and 19 coming up.

Short pass to Martin gets 5. Texans have to punt.

G Tate brings the punt back to the Texan 47. Seahawks ball with 6:18 left in the game.

Wilson pressured throws inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Lynch for 1 or 2. 3rd and 8 coming up.

Hey, hey, hey..... Wilson's pass is INT'ed by JJo! Texans ball!

Yes, good int for JJo.

Now look for ground and pound by Texans.

Texans ball at their 43.

Foster gets in a scrum for 6 yards. 2nd and 4 coming up.

Foster for 4 and a 1st down.

Foster for about 5. A little over 3 minutes left in the game.

Foster for maybe 2. Timeout Seahawks. 3rd and 4 coming up.

Oy, Schaub's pass is complete to Sherman for a patented pick 6.

Texans 20, Seahawks 20

2:40 left in the game.

Great play by the D to get the ball back, but that last offensive possession is why I'm basically convinced we'll never win it all with Schaub. Desperately needing to answer with a drive of our own, Schaub goes 3 and out and gives up a completely avoidable sack because his fear of playing tackle football greatly exceeds his desire to win football games.

And then he does that.

What did Matt Schaub just do? Bad, bad , and that really hurts a good game up to there by Schaub. Geez. Very upsetting behavior by Schaub.

Well, gotta score here.

Martin downs the ensuing kickoff in the endzone, touchback. Texans ball at their 20.

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Pass to AJ good for 17.

Pass to AJ good for 8. 2nd and 2 coming up.

2 minute warning.

Foster for no gain. 3rd and 2 coming up.

Timeout Texans.

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Pass to OD goes for short gain and the 1st down.

Down goes Schaub and so do some flags..... Illegal formation on Texans is declined. 2nd and 20 coming up.

Pass to Hopkins goes for about 15. 3rd and 5 coming up. 34 seconds left in the game.

Timeout Seahawks (2nd). Both teams have 1 timeout left.

Schaub's pass is batted away inc. 4th down coming up. 28 seconds left. Texans to punt.

G Tate fair catches the punt at the Seahawk 11.

Seahawks kneel it.

We're going to overtime.....

Turnovers mostly by Schaub are killing us.

Texans to receive on OT.

Texans win the toss in OT and will receive.

Total yards: Texans 443, Seahawks 225

1st downs: Texans 26, Seahawks 11

And yet we're headed to OT....

Martin downs the OT kickoff in the endzone. Texans ball at their 20.

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Foster for maybe 2.

Pass to AJ goes for about 13 and a 1st down.

Dump off pass to G Jones gets 1. 2nd and 9 coming up.

Checkdown to Foster gets 5. 3rd and 4 coming up.

Pass to AJ off the mark, inc. Texans to punt.

Lechler's punt goes into the endzone. Seahawks ball at their 20.

Oh boy, did we need sack by Reed. Need a stop. FG either side wins.

Short pass to Lynch gets about 10 but flag on Sharpton for horsecollar. Places the ball at the Seahawk 48.

Reed with the sack! Makes it 2nd and 20 coming up.

Pass to the back is off the mark, inc. 3rd and 20 coming up.

Wilson scrambles for about 15. Seahawks have to punt.

Martin fair catches about the Texan 12 1/2 yard line. Texans ball.

Schaub's pass is tipped and sails inc. 2nd and 10 coming up. 10:24 left in OT.

Pass to Hopkins gets about 11 and the 1st down at the Texan 24.

Foster changes direction to avoid a loss and ends up with no gain. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pass to AJ gets 6. 3rd and 4 coming up.

Pass to AJ goes inc but PI on the Seahawks gives the Texans an auto 1st down at their 49.

Down goes Schaub. Loss of 9. 2nd and 19 coming up.

Schaub's pass is batted down inc. 3rd and 19 coming up.

Schaub pressured scrambles for 5. Texans to punt.

Lechler's punt is fielded about the 6 yard line and tackled there. Flag down..... Pleasant ran out of bounds on the punt.... Rekick 4th down....

G Tate brings the punt all the way back to the 31 yard line. Seahawks ball.

We have some bad tackling on that punt reurn.

Russell Wilson can sure run

Man, penalties killong us now.

Seattle on Texans 33. Yiles.

Lynch goes left side for about 6. A little over 6 minutes left in OT.

Wilson scrambles for the 1st down at the Seahawk 44.

Lynch loses 2. TFL by Watt. 2nd and 12 coming up.

Pass is complete to Baldwin for about 6. KJ penalized for body slamming the receiver. 15 yards. Places the ball at the Texan 36.

Lynch for 3.

Lynch for 5 or 6. 3rd and 1 coming up.

Timeout Seahawks.

Wilson's pass is broken up, inc. Seahawks to go for the game-winning FG.

Hauschka's 45-yarder is good.

Final Score:

Seahawks 23, Texans 20

Ok, do we have a QB controversy?

Probably not, but today was the first time I had hoped for Yates to be under center when Schaub was able to. Immediately after the pick 6, the QB would have been Yates for me.

Huge brain fart from Schaub today.

As much as I want to dump on Schaub, the major problem was the offensive line. People are figuring out that all we do, even on third and long, is dink and dunk passes because we have no confidence in our line.

Secondly, Pleasant should be cut. Two major ST mistakes in one game = waiver wire.

I swear Matt Schaub is the only quarterback in the league they allow to take head shots on a regular basis without ever throwing a flag. There were two obvious ones I saw, including the one where the Seahawk defender went to the hospital.

Whether it's cheap-shotted, kicked in the nuts or anything else, the Texans never retaliate. Never.

Nothing will change until Kubiak's gone and I don't see Bob firing that idiot as long as the Texans keep raking in money.

We can give the whole politically correct response all we want to...but the truth of he matter is all we had to do was run the clock out and we win and Shaub damn near threw a pass with his eyes closed...then he damn near threw another one in overtime...not to mention the redzone pick he threw early on...consistent critical ill timed mistakes by your offensive captain....he needs to go...NOW...no more incomplete games

If that is true Kubiak needs to go. I've seen nothing that would convince me we would hold onto Schaub no matter what. We have had no problem replacing guys. Especially since I think Rick Smith would be the ultimate decision maker on that.

Either way we lost last week giving up 236 yards and lost this week giving up 270 (with an extra two OT possessions). When you can play that kind of defense against what are supposed to be good offenses and superbowl contenders, you should not be losing. The number one responsibility for your offense in that situation is to hold onto the ball and Tate and Schaub blew it. We could have kneeled down the 4th quarter and won. Ridiculous.

The team should be 4-0 and they should not have played a close game.

Are they that much more talented than the rest of the NFL that they should be the only untested team in the league and should blow out Baltimore and Seattle? With Matt Schaub at QB? Really? And what stands in the way of that?

Didnt Seattle just beat us with an ever bigger piecemeal o-line than Ours? Isn't denver trotting out backups at multiple spots on the offensive line?

If you're waiting on the day that our o-line is good and healthy for 16 weeks, our running game is firing on all cylinders and none of our RBs ever turns it over, we have 2 lockdown corners and a better pass rush from our OLBs and whatever else you think this team needs to get over the hump, I'll save you 3 hours every Sunday. That day is never coming. Nobody has that. In fact, take out the QB, and I'm not sure there's a better roster in football (anyone you like more, setting aside the QB?). Nobody has all the pieces. How you cover up your inevitable deficiencies is good QB play. Trying to patch up everything else is simply shuffling deck chairs on the titanic.

Complete speculation but i don't think Schaub is treated like the rest of them. Because Kubiak is the supposed QB guru, i think this is the one position Smith defers almost exclusively to Kubiak. I base this on his 2 contracts and his complete lack of competition during his tenure here. Nobody else has had the luxuries Schaub has. I attribute this to Kubiak, but again, that's a guess.

That could be. I would guess that if it is true then Kubiak is reaching a point where he needs to stop protecting or go down with the ship.

But I am not convinced that is how it is. Nobody ever brings in competition for their QB. You either replace your QB or you don't. You bring in competition and you setup a lame duck TB situation where you are cutting your QB's legs off. If Kubiak is protecting him I would guess it is just about his QB rep, since nobody creates 'competition' at QB on purpose. As for the 2 contracts, one was the initial one, and that was a good one. We wanted a guy to get us to the playoffs and replace David Carr. We obviously didn't want to bottom out and go high draft pick. Schaub was a good QB for a team looking to grow, he just didn't grow with the rest of the team. He is what he is. We got great mileage out of him for the talent and what it cost us. The 2nd contract was the bad one. We were clearly not sold on him and didn't extend him early and then got cold feet the day before the season and locked him up last year. A mistake, but Schaub's absence in the 2011 playoffs left the slight possibility hanging in the air we could do it with him. Strangely Schaub's injury got him a free pass and a lot of money that he never sees if he is healthy and spitting the bit in 2011.

No one brings in competition for their quarterback? How the hell did Wilson and Kaepernick come to be starters?

Who did they replace?

Seattle drafted one guy and signed another. They got two guys to compete and once one had the job they got rid of the other. They did not bring in competition for the established guy.

In SF Smith was never Harbaugh's guy. He inherited him, tried to replace him and struck out (manning), and then replaced him. And again, as soon as they made the switch they got Smith out of town because nobody actually wants competition at QB.

When a guy is an established starter you replace him or you don't (or you go Greg Schiano and half replace him and ruin his ability to play QB for your team because the whole team knows you don't want him). And we should have replaced ours. Not replacing him cost us a season (the last of AJ being AJ?), and might cost a whole bunch of people there job.

You're right that Smith was Harbaugh's guy but you're greatly underselling how that went down. Smith was coming off a 13-3 season and an appearance in the NFC championship game and was the highest rated passer in the NFL when he got hurt. You're a good poster who prides himself on being reasonable and relying on the facts (a good natured dig after your minor scuffle here last week), so let's deal with what actually happened. Benching Smith at that time was huge.

Problem is the season isn't at a critical stage yet and Schaub does just well enough to where it's almost impossible to take him out. However, there is no doubt Schaub's skills have declined considerably. He is no threat to run (obviously), no threat to hit the deep ball, rarely leads his receivers to where they can get YAC, and, who doesn't cringe every time he throws a sideline pattern now? He has no zip on his passes at all. Top that off with his mind-numbing bonehead play(s) of the game and this is what you get. Nothing will change until the season is lost or Schaub gets hurt.

It was. Sorry I undersold it as it wasn't my intention. I wasn't talking about the situation being small. When Harbaugh did that it was shocking, took huge balls, a bigger ego, and was potentially smart or maybe (still to this point) really stupid.

My point wasn't about the decision, it was about the fact that Harbaugh was clearly NEVER sold on Smith. They won that first year with running game and defense. Then they tried to replace him and couldn't. Then Harbaugh bold face lied and said they didn't. Then Smith actually played really well and Harbaugh still replaced him. And then got rid of him. It was clear in retrospect (no matter how shocking it was at the time) that Harbaugh never wanted Smith. When he drafted Kaepernick, Smith was terrible and had never played a down for Harbaugh.

It was definitely not a case of Smith being Harbaugh's QB and then Harbaugh went out and spent a 2nd round pick on a guy who could challenge him for the job. That doesn't happen in the NFL. You keep your QB until you don't believe in him and then you replace him and get rid of him as quick as possible. Kubiak/Smith should have reached this point with Schaub. But I sincerely hope another average year from Schaub gets him replaced, not brought back with competition.

So sad and so true. I actually hoped at the start of the last 2 seasons for us to tank so we would see changes at HC/QB somewhere else that matters.

You have to have something in waiting to have a controversy. We do not have that.

Could be but we aren't sure. Yates and Keenum may not have got us to up 20-3 at halftime today, but they likely wouldn't have lobbed a pick six to opposing CB three games in a row either.

Seems to be 3 threads debating how Schaub needs to go when.

If you think you had a bad Sunday watching the Texans, try sitting in a Sports Bar in Montana with a full house of SeaHawk fans while yelling for the Texans as they dominted the game for 3 quarters then ended up losing in OT. That was a humbling experience.
Talked to my wife on the phone back in Houston and she said the town is ready to lynch Schaub. How many pic 6s for him since joining the Texans ? Three just this year, right ?