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chuck 08-27-2011 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 26029)
Just up the road from Candlestick, the Giants have a 1-0 lead on the Astros. The Giants are starting a pitcher they just called up from AAA but he ought to feel comfortable facing a AAA batting lineup.

I think you mean AA.

I'm a believer in Altuve, Martinez and Paredes. I'm optimistic about Shaefer. If Bogusevic is figuring things out the lineup will not be the cause of their being a last place team again next year.

Arky 08-27-2011 08:50 PM

Niners bring the 2nd half kickoff back to their 22. (Must've been a penalty cause they are starting at their 12)

Hunter for about 12. 1st down.

Hunter for 3.

Kaepernick pressured throws it away. 3rd and 7 coming up.

Pass off the hands of Johnson inc. Niners have to punt.

Keo brings the punt back to the Texan 30.

Arky 08-27-2011 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck (Post 26030)
I think you mean AA.

I'm a believer in Altuve, Martinez and Paredes. I'm optimistic about Shaefer. If Bogusevic is figuring things out the lineup will not be the cause of their being a last place team again next year.

Right with ya. Now if they can just figure out what to do with that tub of goo on 1st base....

HPF Bob 08-27-2011 08:53 PM

Three holdings on Casey now.

Arky 08-27-2011 08:55 PM

Tate for 2 but flag on the Texans for holding. Backs it up 10. 1st and 20.

Leinart's pass is inc to JJ.

Tate for 7 tough yards. Makes it 3rd and 13.

Dump to Tate only gets 3 so Texans have to punt.

Niners bring the punt back to their 29. Niners ball.

HPF Bob 08-27-2011 08:57 PM

KILT mentioned that Leinart stunk it up in practice this week. Don't know any details. They talked as if everybody just knew it. FWIW.

Arky 08-27-2011 09:00 PM

Dump pass to Long gets about 8 or 9. 2nd and 1 coming up.

Dixon gets the one for the 1st down.

Dixon gets 1.

Oy, pass gets deflected and nearly INT"ed by Jamison but falls inc. 3rd and 9 coming up.

Dump pass comes up short. Niners have to punt.

Punt goes into the endzone. Texans ball at their 20.

chuck 08-27-2011 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arky (Post 26032)
Right with ya. Now if they can just figure out what to do with that tub of goo on 1st base....

He's going to play first base again next year and drive in as many runs as the guys in front of him allow. I have no idea why he gets savaged so. It's not his fault Drayton gave him a big contract. His contract wouldn't look that out of place on a decent team like, say, the Cardinals. But on Kansas City South it certainly stands out. He was brought to Houston to drive in runs and that's what he's done. It's not his fault the team blows and the old owner is a moron and the new one wants to dramatically slash the payroll.

Arky 08-27-2011 09:08 PM

Tate for maybe 1.

Leinart's pass to JJ gets 9 and the 1st down.

Obie for no gain. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pass over the middle to Casey gets nice gainer. Ball at the Niner 47.

Pass to Dreessen gets 11.

Tate for a couple of tough yards.

Pass to Dreessen goes for about 4. 3rd and 4 coming up.

Pass is off Tate's hands. Makes it 4th and 4 and the Texans will go for the FG.

Rackers 47-yarder is good.

Texans 27, Niners 7

chuck 08-27-2011 09:09 PM

Leinart looked pretty damn good on that series. But he didn't get any help from anyone.

Arky 08-27-2011 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck (Post 26037)
He's going to play first base again next year and drive in as many runs as the guys in front of him allow. I have no idea why he gets savaged so. It's not his fault Drayton gave him a big contract. His contract wouldn't look that out of place on a decent team like, say, the Cardinals. But on Kansas City South it certainly stands out. He was brought to Houston to drive in runs and that's what he's done. It's not his fault the team blows and the old owner is a moron and the new one wants to dramatically slash the payroll.

He gets savaged because his production, RBI, Avg., HR's etc. is way down... And yes, they're stuck with him..

HPF Bob 08-27-2011 09:12 PM

Leinart didn't look that bad considering Tate and the OL were missing blocks all over the place.

chuck 08-27-2011 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arky (Post 26040)
His production, RBI, Avg., HR's etc. is way down... And yes, they're stuck with him..

His production is down, certainly. He's had two straight years with miserable starts. But he is not the reason that the team blows. He actually plays a decent first base. Please know that I'd be happy to see Hinze or Wallace or whoever there instead but Carlos is all ours this year and next.

Arky 08-27-2011 09:17 PM

Niners bring the kickoff back to their 19.

Dump pass to the back is stopped cold by Reed. Flag on Niners for hands to the face is declined. 2nd and 12 coming up.

Hunter for about 5. 3rd and 7 coming up.

Dump pass over the middle gets the 1st down at the Niner 35.

Hunter for maybe 2. 2nd and 8 coming up.

Kaepernick, pressured, can't find a receiver and throws it away. 3rd and 8 coming up.

Deep pass downfield goes over everyone. Niners to punt.

Punt is downed inside the Texan 5.

chuck 08-27-2011 09:18 PM

Right on cue Carlos doubles in a run.

Arky 08-27-2011 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck (Post 26042)
His production is down, certainly. He's had two straight years with miserable starts. But he is not the reason that the team blows. He actually plays a decent first base. Please know that I'd be happy to see Hinze or Wallace or whoever there instead but Carlos is all ours this year and next.

Pffft, Carlos Lee apologist! :p

HPF Bob 08-27-2011 09:19 PM

Carlos Lee 12 HRs in 529 PAs, a .737 OPS for $18.5 million.
J.D. Martinez 5 HRs in 102 PAs, an .891 OPS for $440K.

chuck 08-27-2011 09:19 PM

The Texans have the worst return game I have ever seen in my life.

HPF Bob 08-27-2011 09:23 PM

You can see the fog clearly now. Good thing few people with upper deck tickets bothered to show.

chuck 08-27-2011 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arky (Post 26045)
Pffft, Carlos Lee apologist! :p

I am, I admit it.

And Bob, sure, I know what JD has done. It's impressive and I'm really excited for him. And I know what everyone makes. But what do you want to do? The team has to pay Carlos this year and next. What's your point? That they shouldn't have signed him at that contract? No, they shouldn't have. Cardinals fans are going to be bitching about Holliday's contract here before too long.

Sometimes you overpay for a guy you think you need. Antonio Smith, please pick up the white courtesy phone, Antonio Smith...

Arky 08-27-2011 09:25 PM

Tate for 3.

Dump pass to Tate gets it out to the 16, 1st down.

Tate for about 3.

End of 3rd quarter.

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Deep pass over the middle to Dickerson is inc. 3rd and 7 coming up.

Pass to Graham gets the 1st down at the Texan 28.

Tate for 3 tough yards.

Tate gets 7 and the 1st down.

Tate for 3.

(TV?) Timeout.

chuck 08-27-2011 09:29 PM

Run the ball you stupid asshole.

Arky 08-27-2011 09:29 PM

Ooooo, Leinart gets sacked for a big loss. 3rd and 18 coming up.

Obie gets about 9 so Texans have to punt.

Punt gets knocked loose on the reception by Barber and Texans recover at the Niner 15 yard line!

chuck 08-27-2011 09:31 PM

Houston ball on the 20 or so after a fumble on the return. Time for a halfback pass. Let's see what kind of wing Chris O has on him.

Arky 08-27-2011 09:32 PM

Obie for short gain, about 3.

Obie TFL for -1. Makes it 3rd and 8.

Timeout Texans.

HPF Bob 08-27-2011 09:33 PM

The funny thing is that the only reason the Astros signed Carlos Lee was because Carlos Beltran didn't stay. The difference is that, in 2011, Beltran still had trade value.

What angers me about the Astros is they trade their productive affordable players because they allegedly need to slash payroll but don't trade their overpriced underproductive players so they keep bitching about cutting payroll while keeping the overpaid sluggards.

When I was growing up, you dumped the bad players and kept the good ones. The Astros have turned that strategy on its head.

Arky 08-27-2011 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck (Post 26053)
Houston ball on the 20 or so after a fumble on the return. Time for a halfback pass. Let's see what kind of wing Chris O has on him.

lol :p

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Arky 08-27-2011 09:36 PM

False start Texans makes it 3rd and 13.

Obie gets about 8. Texans will go for the FG.

Rackers 30-yarder is good.

Texans 30, Niners 7

Arky 08-27-2011 09:38 PM

8:52 left in the contest.

(Jags and Bills going into OT, 32-32. I bet they love that...)

Niners bring the kickoff back to their 22.

HPF Bob 08-27-2011 09:41 PM

Lions are drilling the Pats, 34-10. I guess New England finally got the memo that this is still just the preseason.

Arky 08-27-2011 09:42 PM

Texans penalized on the kickoff and re-kick.

This kickoff brought back to the 24.

1st down dump pass is dropped.

Sack by Jamison! Loss of 5.

On 3rd and 15, pass to flat gets small gain. Niners have to punt.

Punt goes out of bounds at the Texan 26. Texans were holding on the punt so back 'em up 10.

chuck 08-27-2011 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 26055)
The funny thing is that the only reason the Astros signed Carlos Lee was because Carlos Beltran didn't stay. The difference is that, in 2011, Beltran still had trade value.

What angers me about the Astros is they trade their productive affordable players because they allegedly need to slash payroll but don't trade their overpriced underproductive players so they keep bitching about cutting payroll while keeping the overpaid sluggards.

When I was growing up, you dumped the bad players and kept the good ones. The Astros have turned that strategy on its head.

Carlos Lee in not tradable. Surely you understand that. You can complain all you like about his contract but to complain that the team does not trade him today is foolish.

And what productive, affordable players have they traded? Pence and Bourn? Pence is not good enough to overpay for and he has one year of arb eligibility if I recall correctly. Bourn is a complete player and it was a shame to lose him but Boras is going to ass rape the team that signs him long term. I would love for the Astros to be a large payroll team that routinely resigns guys like Bourn with agents like Boras. But they're not. The Astros got some intriguing players in return for both of those guys that hopefully will help the club when they get good again in 2018 or so.

chuck 08-27-2011 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 26059)
Lions are drilling the Pats, 34-10. I guess New England finally got the memo that this is still just the preseason.

The Lions are pretty good. I'm not telling you they'd beat the Pats in a real game but they are no longer the league's joke.

Arky 08-27-2011 09:50 PM

Yates in at QB.

Obie for about 4.

Obie for about 4 more. 3rd and 2 coming up.

Pass to Darling gets about 7 and the 1st down.

Obie for about 13 or 14 on the right side. 4:47 left in the game.

Javaris Williams goes right side for about 6.

Williams for about 2. 3rd and 2 coming up. Ball at the Niner 47.

Williams gets 5, 1st down. 2:40 left in the game.

Williams for 1.

2 minute warning.

Arky 08-27-2011 09:56 PM

Williams goes right side for 4 or 5.

Williams up the gut for 6 and a 1st down.

Texans kneeling it out.

Final Score:

Texans 30, Niners 7

Not bad, a little sloppy at times... Need to heal up....

Thursday's game will be the scrub party....

chuck 08-27-2011 09:57 PM

The defense kept the Niners off the scoreboard. As barret pointed out the Niners are terrible, but zero points is good I don't care who you're playing.

barrett 08-27-2011 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck (Post 26065)
The defense kept the Niners off the scoreboard. As barret pointed out the Niners are terrible, but zero points is good I don't care who you're playing.

I agree, zero is zero. Great defensive effort, especially since we gave them the ball repeatedly.

Leinhart looked better. Actually threw it to non-rbs.

Ward has to be nervous. With our depth and youth at RB a fumble like that could doom him.

Casey was a weapon in the receiving game tonight. And the 3rd hold was all on Tate for bouncing it when Casey had him kicked out. The 2nd was on special teams. That means I live with the other holding call if my FB has to be gameplanned for.

And I can't believe that is the job Jim Harbaugh left college football for. They are talent starved on offense like no team in the NFL.

barrett 08-28-2011 12:00 AM

and while the SF offense is terrible, their 1st string defense had not allowed a point in the preseason. They are not a great defense necessarily, but marching up and down the field and putting up 18 first downs before half time is impressive.

Keith 08-28-2011 07:26 AM

Arky,
You're a hero with these posts. I'm managing my son's baseball team in a tournament this weekend and couldn't break away from his doubleheader yesterday to catch the game live.

So 2 weeks for Foster's hammy to heal? I dunno... I'd like to think Tate and Ward could still pile on yards on the Colts, right?

nunusguy 08-28-2011 08:30 AM

I love this defense, love watching it. 3-4s are always more entertaining because of the variety of LB combinations used to rush the QB, but they are also more risky for obvious reasons. It will be interesting to see what Wade has in store for opponents in regular season when he takes the wraps off of his blitz packages ?
And the D also seemed to be more effective against the rush ? Didn't check the stats, but San Fran was running a big OLine, probably 30-40 lbs bigger per man up front and still don't think they were that effective in running the ball ?
I thought Leinert was far more impressive than any previous appearance in this preseason ? And how much do we drop off with Tate/Ward in place of Foster, because that hammy could plague him off and on all season long ?


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