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Schottenheimer for HC
Wade Phillips for DC....and yes, a modified 3-4 with existing personnel. |
Wade may not want to go back into coaching for awhile. He has to be fairly burned out. But he would be a candidate for DC in my book.
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When Oh When is this team finally going to get it right? It has already been 8, going on 9 years since our first year in the league. |
Childress is out in Minnesota. Singletary is on the way out in SF. I assume Fox will be let go in Carolina.
I bet you guys anything that McNair keeps Kubiak for next year. The labor uncertainty (nothing uncertain about it, actually), Kubiak's contract, the competition for head coaches... I just don't see McNair making a move even if the team loses out as I expect them to. |
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This is of course a very unlikely scenario but stranger things have happened ? |
What about Jeff Fisher? He's supposedly at the "him or me" stage as to Vince Young and we know how much Bud loves him some VY.
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If Fisher is let go by Bud, then he goes to the top of my list. Ahead of Cowher and Gruden, and like Cowher, I do not see Fisher being interested in the Cowboys job. If they hire Fisher here, then he will stay with a 4-3, and the WCO, so that would be a very solid fit. Not sure Fisher would want to come to Houston and stay in the AFC South, but he could then be in Bud's back yard and give Bud the finger every week. On another note, if the team releases Young as is being talked about, do the Texans have any interest in Young as a backup? The guy just wins when he is happy. |
Other HCs are on the hotseat, Foxx in Carolina, Singletary in San Fran, and two interim HCs, Frazier with the Vikings and Garrett with the Cowboys.
Of that group, I see the two interims keeping their spots, and I have no interest in Foxx. But I would not be against Singletary being brought in to run the defense. |
Its a long shot, but in all honesty, I think Kubiak getting shit canned is a long shot, but keep an eye on the Titan situation. I can see a pissing contest brewing with the VY/Fisher/Adams circus......
I for one sure wouldn't mind seeing Fisher on the sidelines in Houston again. |
I think Fisher is a good coach, but I've come to think of him as the enemy. Of course it is just for entertainment, so why not.
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I think Fisher ends up the next coach in Dallas. Going from one meddling owner to another. We can still think of him as the enemy. :D
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I would take Tuna as GM / head of football operations / furious guy screaming at our idiot players until they quit playing like idiots and Fisher as head coach so fast you'd be dizzy.
Marvin Lewis is on the hot seat, too. His contract is up and the Bengals won't renew it, much to his relief I'm sure. |
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The guy has had his job since 1994 and has won 5 playoff games. And his last playoff win was 2003. So that is 6 going on 7 years without a playoff win. That means Wade Phillips and Brad Childress have won more playoff games in the last 7 years then Fisher. I'll pass. |
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It is amazing how good Vikings and Bengals , even Cowgirls, were last year and how bad they are doing this year. Good coaches one year, out the next.
Even Indy is not as strong as other years, too bad Texans weren't ready yet to take over our division. Too many young guys on the team for that , but someday they will have be good team I think, just takes a while to mature. |
Just in case you were wondering....these teams have defenses that I'm really enamored with and looking to poach coaches off their rosters...
Pittsburgh Green Bay New York Jets Baltimore Cleveland Miami San Diego Kansas City These teams consistently hold offenses to less than their average scoring output. That would be an answered prayer. I have the Texans defense only ahead of the Bills, Broncos, and Cardinals. I'm curious if the Broncos are second guessing allowing Mike Nolan to go to Miami. |
How could I forget Special Teams Coach?
http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/coac...0-dfbe56cdb54f
Brad Smith is a college QB who averages 28 yards per kick return. Ben Kotwica is from West Point, but I'm not going to let that cloud my judgment. Hopefully he has learned a lot from Special Teams guru Mike Westhoff. Ben Kotwica was promoted to assistant special teams coach after two seasons as a quality control coach on defense and special teams. ◊ Joined the Jets after two seasons as the defensive coordinator at the U.S. Military Academy Preparatory School, in Monmouth, NJ. |
The more I read on this the more it seems that Bud Adams is siding with VY, which could/should mean that Fisher will want out of Tennessee.
If Kubiak is fired also look for Rick Smith to go, if that is the case then we need a real GM. IMO I would look at Floyd Reese, former GM of the Oilers/Titans and current Senior Football Advisor for the Patriots. He was hired to replace Scott Pioli. Floyd was a position coach and scout. He is well respected and he built a Super Bowl Team for the miser Bud Adams. Add the fact that Floyd and Fisher have worked together and their connections to Houston makes this a nice fit. GM Floyd Reese HC Jeff Fisher OC Rick Dennison Leave the rest of the offensive coaches alone DC Chuck Cecil AHC/LBs Mike Singletary Secondary Marcus Robertson Ast Secondary CBs Cris Dishman DL Jason Fisk |
I can only guess that fond Oilers memories have clouded your memory on Fisher. The guy has had his job for 17 years without a superbowl win. In fact only 5 playoff wins that entire time. And none since 2003.
Is 6 playoff appearances in 17 years really what we aspire to? I know it would be an improvement on what we have had, but for me it really is superbowl or bust. If we are going to hire a re-tread coach why not hire one with a superbowl win. Or go with a guy who is fresh. To me it is either Cowher, Dungy (if we have a miracle up our sleeves), Harbaugh if we want to roll the dice and try for a guy who may be great, or the top defensive assistant who can compliment our offense the way Dungy/Gruden came into teams who already had one side of the ball figured out. But if you told me the Texans weren't going to win a superbowl in the next 17 years but they would make the playoffs 5 times, I wouldn't take it. |
In defense of Fisher, he has had to do all of that with Bud Adams as the owner. I suspect he could do a lot more with a guy like Bob McNair making it possible.
In addition, Fisher is definitely a defensive coach with defensive coach's mentality. And what exactly do the Texans lack? 1) a defense and 2) toughness. Fisher would insist we had both. Plus we have talent on our front seven but we still aren't able to stop teams. I've never seen a Fisher team who wouldn't sell out to stop an opponent. I'd move him to the front of my candidate list if he became available. |
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Like Bob said, Fisher would bring many of the qualities that the current staff lacks. He's gotten a lot out of the talent he's had (and the organization he's worked for) and he generally hires quality assistants -- Gregg Williams, Jim Schwartz, Norm Chow, Mike Muchak, Jim Washburn (not a big name but consistently makes productive DLs out of the likes of Jason Babin), etc. I haven't looked closely back at Reese's track record but I remember it being pretty solid with more hits than misses. The fact that he's been working for the Patriots boosts his stock in my eyes. |
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Your version seems to have much better sources. So then bring in Reese and let him hire the HC, like most great organizations do. They let the GM be the boss. If you are not going to go with a guy like Reese, then throw money at Bill Parcells. |
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If Bud backs VY over Fisher, and he's given that indication so far, I bet that he just doesn't can Fisher, especially if he thinks Houston is interested. He's going to try to milk compensation out of the situation, like the Raiders got for Gruden and the Jets got for Belichick and later Herman Edwards. |
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The "issue" is getting Capt. Kirk to take the job.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk_Ferentz Many major college and NFL teams have considered Ferentz as a candidate for their head coaching jobs. However, Ferentz has publicly declined any interest in other coaching positions, opting to stay at Iowa. On February 12, 2009, Ferentz and Iowa athletics director Gary Barta agreed to a new contract extension that keeps Ferentz at Iowa until 2015.[2] On January 2, 2006 the head coaches of five NFL teams, Green Bay, St. Louis, Houston, New Orleans, and Minnesota, were fired. There was renewed speculation that Ferentz would be offered a head coaching job with one of those professional franchises. But such speculation was soon put to rest when Ferentz stated that he was still happy with his job at Iowa, and that he had no plans to leave.[3] On June 2, 2006, Ferentz became the highest paid coach in the Big Ten and third highest in college football when he was given a restructured contract that boosted his annual salary to $2.7 million.[4] Following the 2006 NFL season, rumors circulated that Ferentz may have been in consideration for the Pittsburgh Steelers' head coaching job after Bill Cowher stepped down. However, before Cowher's departure, Ferentz was asked about his possible interest in the position, and stated: “I know that staff pretty well and they’ve got some good guys in that building. My guess is that's where they would go. But I’m not interested, and I doubt they are, either. I’ve got a great job right here.”[5] The Steelers job eventually went to Mike Tomlin. In 2008, Ferentz was again rumored to be a candidate for an NFL head coaching job, particularly as successor to Romeo Crennel for the Cleveland Browns.[6] In January 2009, rumors surfaced citing Ferentz as a potential candidate to be hired as head coach in place of Herman Edwards soon after the hiring of former New England Patriots VP of Player Personnel Scott Pioli as the new GM of the Kansas City Chiefs. However, the Chiefs eventually hired Todd Haley, and Ferentz received a contract extension to remain at Iowa through 2015. |
Here's an article that covers some of the assistants mentioned on this thread.
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The rumor back in the day was that Ferentz would want to pick his own personnel guy, and then-Ravens director of player personnel Phil Savage was linked to him because they'd worked together in Cleveland. Since then Savage has been GM of the Browns with mixed, at best, results and is now a consultant with the Eagles. Ferentz has never worked with Reese but they do have a mutual friend in Belichick. |
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Then Let Reese hire the next HC. |
Brian Van Gorder DC for the Falcons should be on the interview list. He has been a college HC on two occasions. And his defense has progressed each year he has been the DC in Atlanta.
Mike Smith has been one of the most progressive HC in the league when it comes to training and I would hope that some of that has rubbed off on Gorder. |
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Belichick is clearly calling the shots for the Patriots but I'd consider having worked in that system to be a big plus for Reese as a GM candidate. Former Patriot front office guys like Scott Pioli and Thomas Dimitroff have had more success than former Patriot assistant coaches. |
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