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barrett 11-30-2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WMH (Post 36572)
Ok, got a little heavier, at least for this year. Oh well, he's never had a D that was worth a shit.

@MarkBermanFox26: Texas A and M announces it has reached an agreement in principle on a new 6-year contract with Kevin Sumlin

That is my concern as well. UH has a better defense with a 2 deep that basically has one upperclassmen. That means the average coach that replaced Sumlin at UH has done more defensively with his own young recruits than Sumlin did with a full cycle at UH. Combine that with the Aggie D this year and it would be a real concern for me.

WMH 12-06-2013 09:07 PM

Saw Bill O'Brien's name pop up in a couple of spots. That'd be interesting.

barrett 12-06-2013 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WMH (Post 36850)
Saw Bill O'Brien's name pop up in a couple of spots. That'd be interesting.

I agree. And we know McNair is a fan of the Patriots organization. I am too. Interesting name and he fits the mentioned requirements (HC experience, NFL experience).

WMH 12-08-2013 08:56 AM

@JasonLaCanfora: The Texans are using. headhunter Jed Hughes to lead their coaching search. Already turned down by some prominent former head coaches ...

HPF Bob 12-08-2013 11:33 AM

ESPN reporting that the Texans are looking at former Arizona HC and Steelers OC Ken Whisenhunt as the next HC. We may be saying "Win One For The Wizzer" next fall.

Arky 12-08-2013 12:05 PM

One thing that came out of the early firing, is that the Texans were wanting to get the fact that they are looking for a new head coach out ASAP. So, not only are they probably going to have the 1st pick in the draft, they should be able to get the #1 head coaching prospect, too....

nunusguy 12-08-2013 01:01 PM

Whisenhunt is definitely an offensive guy, so if that's your preference (vs a D guy like Lovie S.), that should be encouraging.
Objectively I can see a couple big drawbacks to the attractiveness of the Houston HC opportunity to potential candidates:
(1) Cap issues, (2) main division competitor already is blessed with a franchise QB who is also very young and will therefor will be on the AFC South scene for many years, (3) once again being objective here, Texans really don't have a clue about the identity of their own franchise QB, i.e., they don't have one or one even in sight.

chuck 12-08-2013 01:26 PM

The Texans have a roster that is full of holes and an owner who thinks they have Super Bowl talent. I can see why the Texans would be a hard sell for anyone with any head coaching experience or basic common sense.

WMH 12-08-2013 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck (Post 36892)
The Texans have a roster that is full of holes and an owner who thinks they have Super Bowl talent. I can see why the Texans would be a hard sell for anyone with any head coaching experience or basic common sense.

Horseshit. Every NFL roster has holes. Coaching and a top end QB covers them up. NE and KC are good examples.

Houston provides financial support for whatever, and an owner that doesn't meddle.

chuck 12-08-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by WMH (Post 36893)
?.. and an owner that doesn't meddle.

Except when he fires the head coach for not playing the fan favorite quarterback or except when he demanded that the same head coach fire his BFF DC and hire the guy that the owner wanted.

The Texans are going to be left with second and third tier coaching talent to choose from because anyone with any options will go to a real NFL team rather than this bunch of slapdicks. Are you surprised that experienced former head coaches have turned down the Texans? I'm not. And I haven't even accounted for having an albatross like Rick Smith guarding the door to the king's chamber.

Just because the players' facilities are supposed to be good (and they may be) and you think the stadium is outSTANding (it isn't, it sucks) doesn't mean that a real NFL coach is going to want to ringmaster this circus.

barrett 12-08-2013 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck (Post 36894)
Except when he fires the head coach for not playing the fan favorite quarterback or except when he demanded that the same head coach fire his BFF DC and hire the guy that the owner wanted.

The Texans are going to be left with second and third tier coaching talent to choose from because anyone with any options will go to a real NFL team rather than this bunch of slapdicks. Are you surprised that experienced former head coaches have turned down the Texans? I'm not. And I haven't even accounted for having an albatross like Rick Smith guarding the door to the king's chamber.

Just because the players' facilities are supposed to be good (and they may be) and you think the stadium is outSTANding (it isn't, it sucks) doesn't mean that a real NFL coach is going to want to ringmaster this circus.

Now you have an issue with the stadium? I guess the superbowl committee disagrees with you.

barrett 12-08-2013 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 36891)
Whisenhunt is definitely an offensive guy, so if that's your preference (vs a D guy like Lovie S.), that should be encouraging.
Objectively I can see a couple big drawbacks to the attractiveness of the Houston HC opportunity to potential candidates:
(1) Cap issues, (2) main division competitor already is blessed with a franchise QB who is also very young and will therefor will be on the AFC South scene for many years, (3) once again being objective here, Texans really don't have a clue about the identity of their own franchise QB, i.e., they don't have one or one even in sight.

The Colts are falling apart right now and have been outscored 161-99 while going 2-3 in their last 5 games (with the only wins coming over Tennessee. Their roster is far worse than ours when you take QB out of the equation. They were far better last year with Arians coaching them (and Arians stomped them a few weeks ago in his return). They had tons of cap space until their young GM spent a ton of money on mediocre Free Agents this offseason. And they are already down next year's 1st round pick because they traded for a running back who averages 2.8 ypc and was benched for Donald Brown. They will win a division title by default, but nobody is turning down jobs out of fear of the Colts.

Nconroe 12-08-2013 03:55 PM

Just the opposite of whatever Chuck mouths off about. So negative.

Make a few positive suggestions.

Perhaps name your preferred top tier of available coaches.

chuck 12-08-2013 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett (Post 36895)
Now you have an issue with the stadium? I guess the superbowl committee disagrees with you.

I disliked the stadium from the first moment I set foot in it which, as an original season ticket holder, was a practice. I made this clear at the time and it would be easily verifiable if that cowardly puke Ric hadn't gotten pissy and taken the original HPF site offline with no warning.

And, Nconroe, what, you want me to make a list of coaches that will never coach in Houston? Why? And I'm negative? What? Do you need another dozen years of abject failure to cement your own opinion of the franchise? Seriously?

I realize that I have a darker view of the team and its prospects than most of you and I try not to continually post the same BS over and over and over. And I hope I don't. (And if I do, I hope I get called on it.) But in times of transition such as this I think it is entirely appropriate to point out that I think that the owner is plainly not the sort of owner who is likely to see many consecutive years of success from his team. I've watched the Texans closely for as long as they have been in existence and my conclusion is, to me, obvious, and it also has the advantage of being supported by things like facts.

Who knows. Maybe he'll hire some young genius and the Texans will suddenly begin to draft great and go on a New England style run. But do you really think this will happen? Really? Deep down?

I didn't think so.

WMH 12-08-2013 04:49 PM

I'd put 99-1 odds that the former coaches that have already said No were the same 3 coaches who are brought up seemingly every single off season.

Cowher, Gruden, and Dungy.

Whoopity Doo.

Nconroe 12-08-2013 05:11 PM

Quoting Chuck "I'm being given as a reference in an internet argument. Awesome". And it was a ref by Chuck. Double whammy. :)

Nconroe 12-08-2013 05:20 PM

Here is info on the headhunter Texans using to help find a new coach. Sounds like he worked with San Francisco and Green Bay recently.

http://www.stateofthetexans.com/the-...l-head-hunter/

chuck 12-08-2013 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nconroe (Post 36900)
Quoting Chuck "I'm being given as a reference in an internet argument. Awesome". And it was a ref by Chuck. Double whammy. :)

My populist sensibilities are warmed to know that the public internet is wide open even to those who never brought home plus marks down their reading comprehension report card columns.

How many season ticket holders do we have here? Keith? Who else?

How many people have never seen a Texans game in Reliant? Bob? Who else?

chuck 12-08-2013 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Nconroe (Post 36901)
Here is info on the headhunter Texans using to help find a new coach. Sounds like he worked with San Francisco and Green Bay recently.

http://www.stateofthetexans.com/the-...l-head-hunter/

He's worked for Arsenal and Liverpool. Maybe he can find the Texans a kicker.

In all seriousness this sounds like a good move.

WMH 12-08-2013 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck (Post 36902)
How many season ticket holders do we have here? Keith? Who else?

How many people have never seen a Texans game in Reliant? Bob? Who else?

Since day 1. Probably seen 95 of the 100+ games played. Sometimes life just gets in the way. Sometimes......


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